F = ma Exam 2011 # 12 (Gravitational Attraction of Rods and Balls)

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves gravitational interactions between balls and rods, specifically examining the compressive force in rods when multiple balls are arranged in an equilateral triangle. The context is rooted in gravitational attraction and the application of Newton's second law.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the forces acting on the balls and the resulting compressive forces in the rods. Questions arise regarding the net forces on the balls and how these relate to the forces in the rods.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning the calculations and assumptions regarding the forces acting on the balls and rods. Some participants suggest re-evaluating the vector components and their contributions to the net force.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on the gravitational forces and their vector components, with participants attempting to reconcile their calculations with the problem's conditions. The original poster's assertion of the compressive force being F is under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement


12. You are given a large collection of identical heavy balls and lightweight rods. When two balls are placed at the ends
of one rod and interact through their mutual gravitational attraction (as is shown on the left), the compressive
force in the rod is F. Next, three balls and three rods are placed at the vertexes and edges of an equilateral triangle
(as is shown on the right). What is the compressive force in each rod in the latter case?
(A) √1/3F
(B)√3 / 2 F
(C) F
(D)√3F
(E) 2F

The correct answer is C


Homework Equations


F_g = GmM / r^2


The Attempt at a Solution


Why is the force still F?
Is it because the only force that the rod has to equal in magnitude is the gravitational acceleration between two balls at a time?
 
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Take a look at the top ball on the triangle - what is the total force on it?
What proportion of that force goes along each rod?
 
The top ball has Force Gm^2 / R^2 (where R is length of triangle) on the left
same on the right. We'll call this force F, as done in the problem.
However, when these two forces are added the x components of each cancel out, leaving the net force as:
F_net = 2Fsin60
F_net = root(3)F
so each rod will face root(3)/2F, where did I go wrong?
 
You did the proportions back to front.
Draw the vectors on the diagram.
 
I don't follow what you mean. When I draw the vectors on the diagram I get the same result.
 
Surely you get a vector of magnitude F pointing along one rod and another vector of magnitude F pointing along the other rod - the total force being the sum of these vectors?
 

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