Factor: bca² + bcd² + adb² + adc²

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the factorization of the expression $$bca^2 + bcd^2 + adb^2 + adc^2$$. Participants explore various strategies for factoring this non-trivial algebraic expression, including grouping and trial-and-error methods.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the expression can be factored into $$(ab + cd)(ac + bd)$$ but expresses uncertainty about the strategy to use for non-trivial cases.
  • Another participant proposes grouping the terms as $$bc(a^2+d^2) + ad(b^2 + c^2$$ but finds this approach unproductive.
  • A different approach is suggested where $$ab$$ and $$cd$$ are factored out, leading to the expression being rewritten as $$ab(ac + bd) + cd(bd + ac)$$, which allows for further factorization.
  • Participants discuss the necessity of trial and error in finding the correct factorization, with one noting that practice is essential.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on a single method for factoring the expression, as participants explore different strategies and some approaches lead to dead ends while others yield the proposed factorization.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the effectiveness of their methods, indicating that the problem may depend on specific strategies or insights that are not universally applicable.

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The task is to factor

$$bca^2 + bcd^2 + adb^2 +adc^2$$,

which undeniably is a non-trivial one. It turns out that the expression can be factored into $$(ab + cd)(ac + bd)$$. I have absolutely no idea what strategy to employ in non-trivial cases such as these (although I did attempt factoring by grouping, however to no real avail). Forum, got any clues/suggestions/tips? Anything helps!
 
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sweatingbear said:
The task is to factor

$$bca^2 + bcd^2 + adb^2 +adc^2$$,

which undeniably is a non-trivial one. It turns out that the expression can be factored into $$(ab + cd)(ac + bd)$$. I have absolutely no idea what strategy to employ in non-trivial cases such as these (although I did attempt factoring by grouping, however to no real avail). Forum, got any clues/suggestions/tips? Anything helps!

try to group it
bca^2 + bcd^2 + adb^2 +adc^2
= bc(a^2+d^2) + ad(b^2 + c^2)
no

bca^2 + adb^2 + bcd^2 + adc^2
= ab( ac+ bd) + bc(bd + ad) ( I got it)
= ( ac+bd)(ab+ cd)

it is done

did you miss something
 
sweatingbear said:
The task is to factor

$$bca^2 + bcd^2 + adb^2 +adc^2$$,

which undeniably is a non-trivial one. It turns out that the expression can be factored into $$(ab + cd)(ac + bd)$$. I have absolutely no idea what strategy to employ in non-trivial cases such as these (although I did attempt factoring by grouping, however to no real avail). Forum, got any clues/suggestions/tips? Anything helps!

Essentially it comes down to trial and error and practice.

I would seek to factor $$bc $$ from the first two terms and $$ad$$ from the second two simply because they stand out to me.

$$bc(a^2+d^2) + ad(b^2+c^2)$$. This just leads to a dead end though.



Let's try $$ab$$ and $$cd$$ respectively (some question setters aren't very imaginative (Wink))

$$ab(ac +db) + cd(bd + ac) = ab(ac+bd) + cd(ac+bd)$$

Now I have $$ac+bd$$ in both terms I can factor again to get the answer:

$$(ac+bd)(ab+cd)$$
 
Thanks a lot, looks like trial-and-error will have to do.
 

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