Factoring algebraic expressions contaning fractions

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The discussion revolves around the factoring of algebraic expressions that include fractions, specifically focusing on a provided image from a textbook. Participants seek clarification on the steps involved in the factoring process and the manipulation of exponents.

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  • Some participants question how the expression (x + 1)^(1/4) can be transformed into (x + 1)^(-3/4)(x + 1), indicating confusion about the equivalence of these forms.
  • There is a discussion about the purpose of factoring out a common term, specifically (x + 1)^(-3/4), and the application of the distributive law.
  • One participant suggests that the steps involve grouping factors, but later retracts this, stating that the operation was more about adding terms rather than grouping.
  • Another participant confirms that with a negative exponent, the term can be rewritten to appear in the denominator, which aligns with their understanding of handling negative exponents.
  • There is an acknowledgment of the equivalence of expressions after some initial confusion, with participants expressing their understanding of the steps involved.

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Participants exhibit some agreement on the manipulation of negative exponents and the process of rewriting terms. However, there remains uncertainty regarding the initial steps of factoring and whether grouping was involved, indicating that the discussion is not fully resolved.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the equivalence of expressions and the application of factoring techniques, highlighting potential gaps in the textbook's explanations.

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http://imgur.com/RNsBBoO (image)

Can someone elaborate as to how he factored this? The textbook provided nothing else about factoring algebraic expressions with fractions than this image.It avoided fractions in factoring like a plague I guess.

I understand the 3rd step to put the (x + 1)^(3/4) on the bottom since the exponent was negative. However I have absolutely no idea how the former 2 steps were possible.
 
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leighflix said:
http://imgur.com/RNsBBoO (image)

Can someone elaborate as to how he factored this? The textbook provided nothing else about factoring algebraic expressions with fractions than this image.It avoided fractions in factoring like a plague I guess.

I understand the 3rd step to put the (x + 1)^(3/4) on the bottom since the exponent was negative. However I have absolutely no idea how the former 2 steps were possible.
Do you agree that ##(x + 1)^{1/4}## in the first step is the same as (equal to) ##(x + 1)^{-3/4}(x + 1)## in the second step?
The purpose of doing this was to get a common factor of ##(x + 1)^{-3/4}##, and then using the distributive law.
 
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Mark44 said:
Do you agree that ##(x + 1)^{1/4}## in the first step is the same as (equal to) ##(x + 1)^{-3/4}(x + 1)## in the second step?
The purpose of doing this was to get a common factor of ##(x + 1)^{-3/4}##, and then using the distributive law.

I have no idea how (x + 1)^(1/4) = (x + 1)^(-3/4) * (x + 1)

EDIT: Ok, I get how it is equilavent
 
In step 1 & 2, did he group factor?

(2x + 1)(x + 1)^(-3/4) = (2x+1) / (x + 1)^(3/4)

EDIT: OK no, he didn't group factor, he basically just added x and (x+1).
I understand now, thanks.
 
leighflix said:
I have no idea how (x + 1)^(1/4) = (x + 1)^(-3/4) * (x + 1)

EDIT: Ok, I get how it is equilavent
It's also equivalent. :wink:
 
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leighflix said:
In step 1 & 2, did he group factor?

(2x + 1)(x + 1)^(-3/4) = (2x+1) / (x + 1)^(3/4)
Naw. With a negative exponent, you can just re-write it so that term appears in the denominator.

You know: ## a ⋅ b^{-n} = \frac{a}{b^n}##
 
SteamKing said:
Naw. With a negative exponent, you can just re-write it so that term appears in the denominator.

You know: ## a ⋅ b^{-n} = \frac{a}{b^n}##
Yea, that was what I was thinking. Simply just add similar to adding fractions, since they have the same denominator, just add both numerators.
 
leighflix said:
Yea, that was what I was thinking. Simply just add similar to adding fractions, since they have the same denominator, just add both numerators.
You got it.
 
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Thanks both of you! :smile:
 

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