Factoring problem - is it an iteration or more obvious?

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The problem involves factoring the expression 8 - b³, which is recognized as a difference of cubes. Participants are exploring methods to factor this polynomial and questioning the most effective approach to do so.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to identify the next steps after recognizing the expression as 2³ - b³. They question whether the process involves trial and error or if there is a more straightforward method. Other participants suggest using polynomial division and the difference of cubes formula, while also discussing the general approach to factoring polynomials.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering various insights into factoring techniques. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of the difference of cubes formula and polynomial division, but there is no explicit consensus on a single method. The exploration of different approaches continues.

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Participants are considering the implications of using integer coefficients in their factoring attempts and discussing the potential for complex roots in polynomial equations.

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Homework Statement



A part of a problem is to factor 8 - b^3

"8 minus b cubed"

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The Attempt at a Solution



I see that the problem is 2^3 - b^3.

I don't see the next step

I know the answer is (2-b)(4+2b+b^2).

but I can't get there.

Is this just trail and error dividing terms into the polynomial or is there a more obvious solution?

Thanks
Sparky_
 
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Are you familiar with polynomial division? (I'm assuming you want an answer better than 'use the difference of two cubes formula'.)

You would look for a value of b which solves the equation
8 - (b^3) = 0 , which gives b^3 = 8 and thus b = 2. The factors of a polynomials can be expressed as differences of the variable and the zeroes of the polynomials (are you familiar with this theorem?). So we now know that one factor of 8 - (b^3) is
(b - 2) . If you divide this factor into the original polynomial, you will get - ( 4 + 2b + b^2 ).
 
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Sparky_ said:

Homework Statement



A part of a problem is to factor 8 - b^3

"8 minus b cubed"

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I see that the problem is 2^3 - b^3.

I don't see the next step

I know the answer is (2-b)(4+2b+b^2).

but I can't get there.

Is this just trail and error dividing terms into the polynomial or is there a more obvious solution?

Thanks
Sparky_
(Intelligent) trial and error is pretty much the way you (try to) factor most polynomials (I say "try to" because, of course, most polynomials can't be factored using only integer coefficients).

The other way is to memorize some basic formulas. In particular, [itex]a^n- b^n= (a- b)(a^{n-1}+ a^{n-2}b+ a^{n-3}b^2+ \cdot\cdot\cdot+ a^2b^{n-3}+ ab^{n-2}+ b^{n-1})[/itex] is useful for this problem. It is also true that if n is odd then [itex]a^n+ b^n= (a+b)(a^{n-1}- ba^{n-2}+ b^2a^{n-3}- \cdot\cdot\cdot+a^2b^{n-3}- ab^{n-2}+ b^{n-1})[/itex].

Of course, if you don't require that the coefficients be integer, there is a sure-fire method of factoring any polynomial, p(x). First find all roots of the equation p(x)= 0, say [itex]x_1, x_2, \cdot\cdot\cdot , x_n[/itex] where n is the degree of the polynomial, including complex roots and counting the correct multiplicity for each root. Then, if the leading coefficient is a, [itex]p(x)= (x- x_1)(x- x_2)\cdot\cdot\cdot(x- x_{n-1})(x-x_n)[/itex]. Of course, that method is not terribly useful if you want to factor in order to solve the equation!
 
Sparky_ said:
… is there a more obvious solution?

Hi Sparky! :smile:

Substitute b = 2a.

Then you have 8(1 - a³).

Do you know how to factor 1 - a³ ? :smile:
 

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