Falling monkeys (Projectile motion problem)

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The discussion revolves around a projectile motion problem involving a monkey falling and a coconut being thrown. Participants are attempting to analyze the motion of both the monkey and the coconut to determine their positions over time.

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  • Participants are exploring the equations of motion for both the monkey and the coconut, attempting to relate their positions and times. There are discussions about rearranging equations and determining the time it takes for the monkey to reach the height of the coconut.

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Some participants have provided guidance on setting up the equations for both the monkey and the coconut, while others express confusion about the relationships between the variables and the correct application of initial conditions. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored.

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There are indications of uncertainty regarding the initial velocities and the heights involved in the problem, as well as concerns about making assumptions that could affect the outcome.

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\DeltaY=VoYt+1/2gt2

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Rearranging the equation (using \DeltaY=h), I get \sqrt{}2h/g which, from what I understand, means it takes \sqrt{}2h/g seconds for the monkey to reach the point at which the coconut was thrown. My problem is moving on from here. All I know is that the monkey is at the original height of the coconut and the coconut is some portion of b from it's starting point (for what it's worth, my guess is 9, but I'd rather not lose points that I don't have to trying to guess). Where should I go from here?

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If the monkey catches the ball at a distance y from the ball, for monkey
Δy = h + y = ...?...(1)
For the ball
y =...? (2)
Solve these two equations to find t.
 
For monkey
ΔY = h + y
ΔY=1/2gt2+Vimt+1/2gt2
h is 1/2gt2, y is Vimt+1/2gt2 (Vim being the monkeys velocity after falling h meters.)

For ball
ΔY = y
ΔY = Vibt+1/2gt2

ΔY = ΔY
1/2gt2+Vimt+1/2gt2=Vibt+1/2gt2

And now I'm lost again. I tried figuring out the monkeys velocity once it reached the original height of the ball (a=Vf-Vi/t) and got
V=g\sqrt{}2h/g, put that into the monkey equation and got ΔY=g\sqrt{}2h/gt+2(1/2gt2), simplifying to ΔY=g\sqrt{}2h/gt+gt2. I tried to set the two equations equal to each other, getting Vibt+1/2gt2=g\sqrt{}2h/gt+gt2. From here I'm not sure what to do - I tried to find what t was equal to, but Vib and the two degrees of t's (t and t2) are making it rather difficult. I've tried rearranging twice and got a different answer each time. Any suggestions on what I'm doing wrong, or maybe where to start for rearranging?
 
Please help? Someone?
 
Your equation for monkey is wrong. Initial velocity of the monkey is zero.
In time t, monkey travels
h + y = 1/2*g*t^2.--------(1)
For Ball, the initial velocity is in the upward direction.
So y = -vo*t + 1/2*g*t^2.-------(2)
Find (1) - (2).
 

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