Falling object - relating distance interval to time interval

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves an object falling from a height of 103.6 meters, with specific details about the vertical distance between windows and the time taken to fall between two consecutive windows. The objective is to determine which storey corresponds to window A based on the given conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss relating the time interval of 0.1 seconds to the distance intervals between windows, questioning the relevance of the building's height. There are attempts to derive equations involving the distances to windows A and B and the time taken to fall between them.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided guidance on manipulating the equations, with some expressing confusion over the cancellation of terms. There is a recognition of potential errors in the algebraic steps taken, and a few participants have suggested alternative approaches to solving for the number of storeys.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the expected answer is 6, but there is some ambiguity regarding whether the storeys are counted from the top or the ground. The problem setup includes specific constraints about the distances between windows and the time intervals involved.

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Homework Statement



An object falls from the top of a 103.6m high building. The vertical
distance between two consecutive windows A and B is 4.0m. The first window/storey is
also 4m from the top of the building. The object reaches window B 0.1s after it has reached window A.

Which storey is A ?

- Top of building, 103.6m above ground
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| 4m
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= Window
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| 4m
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= Window
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|4m
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= Window
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.
= Window A
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|4m,time to fall from A to B is 0.1s
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= Window B
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.
.
_ Ground


Homework Equations


d= 1/2gt2


The Attempt at a Solution


The height of the building seems irrelevant (it is not a multiple of 4) except to indicate the object will be falling quickly enough to satisfy the conditions of the problem. What appears to be required is to relate the time interval (0.1s) to the distance interval 4n and 4n+1

The time for an object to fall a given distance from a start velocity of 0m.s will be
SQRT(2D/g)

The most promising approach appeared to be to relate the distance between the windows A and B expressed as 4n metres to the time interval and solve for n (the number of storeys from the top) so that:
time interval = time to reach A - time to reach B

Letting DB = distance from top to Window B, DA=distance from top to Window A

0.1 = SQRT(2DB/g) - SQRT(2DA/g)

Substituting DB = 4(n+1) metres, DA = 4n metres

0.1 = SQRT(2(4(n+1))/g) - SQRT(2(4n)/g)

Sadly I'm in error because the n's cancel!

What have I done wrong?
 
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0.1 = SQRT(2(4(n+1))/g) - SQRT(2(4n)/g)
Wright this equation as
0.1 + SQRT(2(4n)/g) = SQRT(2(4(n+1))/g).
Square both sides and solve for n.
From the height of building it is clear the last window from the top must be 25th.
 
Still puzzled...
n should give the number of storeys A is from the top...

Following your suggestion, I have:
0.12+ (8n)/g = (8n+8)/g

then
0.01g + 8n = 8n +8

The n's still cancel - I've obviously done something wrong

The expected answer is 6
 
0.1^2+ (8n)/g = (8n+8)/g
This step is wrong.
It should be
0.1^2+ (8n)/g + 2*0.1*(8n/g)^1/2= (8n+8)/g
 
Please check my working - I don't get the specified answer - but it's possible that answer counted the storeys from the ground up...

I now see my mistake in squaring one side of the expression... starting from there:

0.1^2+8n/g+(0.2 x SQRT(8n/g)) = (8n+8)/g

Multiply both sides by g

0.01g +8n +(0.2g x SQRT(8n/g)) = 8n + 8

Cancel the 8n terms

0.01g + (0.2g x SQRT(8n/g)) = 8

Re-arrange:

0.2g x SQRT(8n/g) = 8-0.01g

SQRT(8n/g) = (8-0.01g)/0.2g

8n/g = ((8-0.01g)/0.2g)^2

n = (g x ((8-0.01g)/0.2g)^2)/8

Taking g to be 9.81ms^-2

Gives n as 19.91 (4sfs) so I guess n = 20
 
Yes. n is correct.
As I told you before, from the height of building (103.6 m) it is clear the last window from the top must be 25th. Upto A number of windows 20. So below A there are 5 windows. Hence A must be 6th storey.
 

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