Maximizing Free Fall Distance: Solving for Equal Time Intervals

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The problem involves a body falling from a height of 720 meters, with the objective of dividing this distance into three segments such that the time taken to fall each segment is equal. The discussion revolves around the application of kinematic equations and the interpretation of motion under uniform acceleration due to gravity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the total time of fall and consider dividing it into equal intervals. There is discussion about using kinematic equations to find time and distance, and some participants question the correctness of their calculations and assumptions regarding the distances fallen during each time interval.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their attempts and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of distances fallen during specific time intervals, and there is a recognition of the need to visualize the problem more clearly.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the application of the kinematic equations and the assumptions made about the distances corresponding to specific time intervals. Participants are encouraged to reflect on their calculations and the meaning of the distances in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A body is falling from a height of 720m. Divide this distance into three parts so that the body would overcome all parts in the same time.

P.S (This is translated from a different language)

Homework Equations


x(t)= x0+V0+at2/2
v(t)=V0+at

The Attempt at a Solution


I made an acceleration over time graph, and thought about diving it into three equal parts, and the area would be the velocity. But I can't figure out how to divide it into three equal parts, or if this is the correct way to solve the problem at all.
The graph: https://www.desmos.com/calculator/l9nkar1tqa
 
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What's the total time it takes to fall? Start with that.
 
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Is this correct? If so, what's next?

x(t)= x0+V0+at2/2
t=√2x/√a
t=12.12

Also, how do I format division as a fraction here? Thanks!
 
You can also think of Change in velocity during these equal intervals of time.
 
Juliusz said:
Is this correct? If so, what's next?

x(t)= x0+V0+at2/2
t=√2x/√a
t=12.12

Also, how do I format division as a fraction here? Thanks!

If you take ##g = 10/s^2## then the time is exactly ##12s##.

In any case, now you have the total to time isn't the next step obvious? Divide the motion into three equal parts, it said.
 
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I looked at the answer, ant it is 80m, 240m, 400m. I can't see how I can figure that out by knowing the total time
 
Juliusz said:
I looked at the answer, ant it is 80m, 240m, 400m. I can't see how I can figure that out by knowing the total time
Divide the total time into thirds (as PeroK told you) and find the position at times t/3 and 2t/3.
 
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t1=12
t2=8
t3=4

x(t)=a*t2/2

x(t1)=10*122/2=720
x(t2)=10*82/2=320
x(t3)=10*42/2=80

I think I did what you two were suggesting, but I still got a bad answer for t2. Maybe I made a wrong assumption somewhere?
 
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Juliusz said:
t1=12
t2=8
t34

x(t)=a*t2/2

x(t1)=10*122/2=720
x(t2)=10*82/2=320
x(t3)=10*42/2=80

I think I did what you two were suggesting, but I still got a bad answer for t2. Maybe I made a wrong assumption somewhere?
Think about what those distances mean.
 
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PeroK said:
Think about what those distances mean.
They mean the distance fallen by the body after a certain amount of time
 
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Juliusz said:
They mean the distance fallen by the body after a certain amount of time
So how far did the object fall between t3 and t2 (for example)?
 
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Visualize the problem and the path. Re-read the question. You are just applying the formula blindly and thinking that this formula will give me that answer. You are almost there. Then you are not confident of what you are doing; you say, "I did what you told me" still I am not getting answer. Now just think visualize coolly and alone and get the answer.
 
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Doc Al said:
So how far did the object fall between t3 and t2 (for example)?
I get it now, thanks! The body fell 80 meters in the first 4 seconds, then another 240 meters (which is 320-80) in the following 4 seconds. And then, in the last 4 seconds it fell 400 meters, which is 720-320m. Thanks for the help everyone!
 
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Yay! :thumbup:
 
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Juliusz said:
I get it now, thanks! The body fell 80 meters in the first 4 seconds, then another 240 meters (which is 320-80) in the following 4 seconds. And then, in the last 4 seconds it fell 400 meters, which is 720-320m. Thanks for the help everyone!
Good now can you write down a general formula for finding distance traveled between any time t1 and t2, that is for the time interval (t2-t1)? Think it over.
 

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