Falling solid cylinder with string

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The discussion revolves around the dynamics of a falling solid cylinder connected by a string, exploring the relationships between tension, angular velocity, and acceleration. Participants are examining the forces acting on the cylinder and the equations governing its motion.

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  • Participants are attempting to derive equations related to the motion of the cylinder, questioning the relationships between tension, angular acceleration, and linear acceleration. There are discussions about centripetal force and the role of torque.

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Several participants have offered insights into the relationships between the various forces and accelerations involved, while others are seeking clarification on specific equations and concepts. The conversation is active, with multiple interpretations being explored.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the application of torque and the distinction between forces and torques in the context of the problem. Some participants have noted the need for additional equations and have pointed out the importance of free body diagrams.

  • #31
haruspex said:
No, I mean using the equation you wrote in post #21 what is T's torque about the axis of the cylinder?
Torque=F R sin(theta)
 
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  • #32
Suyash Singh said:
Torque=F R sin(theta)
Yes, but that's a generic equation. You need to write it in terms of the variables in this question: T, r etc. What are F, R and θ here?
 
  • #33
haruspex said:
Yes, but that's a generic equation. You need to write it in terms of the variables in this question: T, r etc. What are F, R and θ here?
F= tension
R= radius of cylinder
theta = 90 degrees

Torque=T R
 
  • #34
Suyash Singh said:
F= tension
R= radius of cylinder
theta = 90 degrees

Torque=T R
haruspex said:
Right, so correct your first equation in post #15 and go from there.
 
  • #35
Torque= T R
=m(g-a)R
 
  • #36
Suyash Singh said:
Torque= T R
=m(g-a)R
This is the first equation in your post #15:
Suyash Singh said:
T= 1/(2) (mr^2) a/r
As I wrote, the left hand side is wrong because it is a force, not a torque. Replace that T by the torque it exerts (as in post #33).
 
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  • #37
Torque=F R
Torue=I alpha
=1/2 MR^2 a/R

1/2 MR^2 a/R = F R
1/2 Ma=F
a=2F/m
a=2(g-a)
3a=2g

a=2g/3

Tension=m(g-a)
=m(g-2g/3)
T=mg/3
 
  • #38
Suyash Singh said:
Torque=F R
Torue=I alpha
=1/2 MR^2 a/R

1/2 MR^2 a/R = F R
1/2 Ma=F
a=2F/m
a=2(g-a)
3a=2g

a=2g/3

Tension=m(g-a)
=m(g-2g/3)
T=mg/3
That's it.
 
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