Falling sphere method to find fluid's viscosity

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The discussion centers on an experiment aimed at determining the viscosity of fluids using the falling sphere method. Participants explore various factors affecting the accuracy of viscosity measurements, including the choice of sphere material, the medium through which the sphere falls, and the conditions necessary for valid results. The conversation also touches on discrepancies in measured values compared to accepted standards.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the suitability of using modeling toy clay as a sphere and whether water is an appropriate medium, noting that the sphere falls quickly through the water.
  • Another participant suggests that increasing the number of measurements may help reduce discrepancies in the measured viscosity value.
  • Concerns are raised about systematic errors in the experiment, particularly regarding the assumptions related to velocity and Reynolds number, with a suggestion to use a smaller, lighter sphere for accurate measurements.
  • A participant provides references for further reading on fluid dynamics and suggests that the original measurement handbook may lack necessary details about the conditions for accurate viscosity measurement.
  • One participant reports using glycerin instead of water to achieve a lower Reynolds number and shares their results, which are close to accepted values, but expresses concern over a significant discrepancy in the measured density of glycerin compared to accepted values.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of materials and methods used in the experiment. There is no consensus on the best approach to achieve accurate viscosity measurements, and multiple competing perspectives on the factors affecting the results are present.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of adhering to specific conditions, such as the size of the sphere relative to the container and the Reynolds number, but do not resolve the implications of these factors on the experiment's outcomes.

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This discussion may be useful for students and researchers involved in experimental fluid dynamics, particularly those exploring viscosity measurement techniques and the factors influencing experimental accuracy.

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We are performing an experiment to determine the viscosity of water using the falling sphere method. I understand that the ratio of the radius of the sphere to the radius of the container has to be within a certain range in order to avoid a false high viscosity value. And a correction factor is needed in the analysis so that the effects of the container walls and ends will be accounted [ref. G.E. Leblanc,et.al., "The Measurement, Instrumentation and Sensors Handbook", Chapter 30:Viscosity Measurement].
We would like to vary the mass and radius of the sphere and calculate the average viscosity. So we would be needing different spheres. Is it ok to have a modelling toy clay as a sphere? We found out that the mass of the clay, which was molded to a sphere, does not change even after it is put into water. Is it also ok to have water as the medium for the sphere? It is observed that the sphere falls through the water quickly. In our experiment, we used a container similar to a beaker but a few inches taller. We also used a camera and the LabVIEW program to record the motion of the sphere. The sphere experiences g (this can be seen by a slight parabolic curve from the y vs. t plot) at a very short time and then abruptly attains terminal velocity (this can be seen from the slope of the the positive straight line from y vs. t also).
I would like to reiterate my questions:
-Is it ok to have a modelling toy clay as a sphere?
-Is it also ok to have water as the medium for the sphere?
 
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The dynamic viscosity we measured has a discrepancy of about 10^-3 from the accepted value. Do we need to increase our number of measurements to obtain an accurate value? Your thoughts about this would be greatly appreciated.
 
Repeating the experiment without changing anything will reduce the random errors (for example inaccurate velocity measurements, the ball is not perfectly spherical, etc) but it will not affect any systematic errors, for example if the conditions in the experiment don't match the assumptions in the equations you used to calculate the viscosity.

The most important assumption is that the velocity is small enough. Check what your textbook says about Reynolds number, how to calculate it, and what range it should be to make the experiment valid.

Most likely, your clay sphere is too big and falls too fast. To measure the viscosity of water accurately this way, you need a small light sphere, for example a small plastic bead.
 
@AlephZero:
What textbook can you recommend because the reference stated doesn't mention about Reynolds number?
 
Almost any text on fluid dynamics should cover this. I'm surprised your measurement handbook doesn't state the required conditions for the method to be accurate, even if it didn't explain the theory behind them.

Try this:
http://www.mech.northwestern.edu/ME224/ME224_Lab_6.pdf

Here is a different way to correct the results for fairly small Reynolds numbers:
http://www-users.aston.ac.uk/~norriswt/WTNPapers/Sphere%20Viscous%20Fluid.pdf
 
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We used glycerin instead of water so that our reynolds number would be much less than unity. Then corrected the results using the empirical formulas from the handbook; still conforming with the range 0.16</=(radius of sphere/radius of container)</=0.32 [Leblanc, et. al.]. The dynamic viscosity that we obtained is equal to 1.603kg/m.s @ 24 deg. C. It's near from the accepted value. We also obtained the value of the density of glycerin to be 1602kg/m^3 still @ 24 deg. C. Our density is too far from the accepted value of 1261kg/m^3 @ 25 deg. C [ref. J. Cimbala, Y. Cengel, "Essentials of Fluid Mechanics", Appendix 1]. What could be wrong?
 

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