Far IR light intensity as a function of altitude

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SUMMARY

This discussion focuses on measuring the intensity of far-infrared (IR) light emitted from the Earth as a function of altitude using sensors in a weather balloon. The primary concern is the potential absorption and re-emission of IR light by water vapor, which could skew the data collected. Participants confirm that the intensity of far-IR light from the sun is negligible compared to that from the Earth, and suggest using sensors that avoid direct sunlight to mitigate measurement errors. Additionally, they recommend filtering out other wavelengths when selecting circuit components for detecting light intensity in the 10 μm range.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Wein's displacement law and its application to thermal radiation.
  • Knowledge of spherical geometry and its impact on intensity measurements.
  • Familiarity with infrared light absorption and emission characteristics of greenhouse gases.
  • Experience with selecting and using light intensity sensors, particularly in the 10 μm range.
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  • Research the emission values of far-IR light from the sun and Earth for comparison.
  • Investigate the effects of water vapor on infrared light absorption and re-emission.
  • Explore commercial light intensity detectors suitable for the 10 μm wavelength range.
  • Learn about filtering techniques to isolate specific wavelengths in infrared measurements.
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Students and researchers in atmospheric science, environmental monitoring, and sensor technology, particularly those focused on greenhouse gas effects and infrared measurements.

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Homework Statement


Hello, so I'm in a class that is building sensors and sending them up in a weather balloon. For my project, I am wanting to quantify the greenhouse effect by measuring the intensity of infrared light emitted as thermal radiation from the Earth as a function of height-- the idea is that as the balloon rises, some of the IR light is absorbed by water vapor and other greenhouse gases, causing intensity to go down.

Homework Equations


From Wein's displacement law, I know emitted radiation will be about 10 μm. I calculated the change in intensity due to spherical geometry causing an increase in area.

The Attempt at a Solution


I have a couple questions about the experiment and one problem.

1. It seems like the intensity of far-IR light from the sun is negligible compared to that radiated from the Earth. Is this a reasonable assumption?

2. I am unable to find data on emission of water vapor. Will the light absorbed be re-emitted at the same wavelength, skewing our data? This is my biggest concern, because it would basically invalidate the experiment.

Finally, we have been searching for a circuit component that detects light intensity in the 10 μm range. Have any of you used one in this range? It must detect intensity of the wavelength.

Thanks you so much!
 
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oobgular said:
I calculated the change in intensity due to spherical geometry causing an increase in area.
For the same solid angle, that should cancel with the inverse square law. Without absorption or emission in the air the mean intensity should not change. You just average over a larger area (make sure you measure a homogeneous area).
oobgular said:
1. It seems like the intensity of far-IR light from the sun is negligible compared to that radiated from the Earth. Is this a reasonable assumption?
You can check the emission values and compare them. A sensor that is not in direct sunlight avoids that issue.
oobgular said:
2. I am unable to find data on emission of water vapor. Will the light absorbed be re-emitted at the same wavelength, skewing our data? This is my biggest concern, because it would basically invalidate the experiment.
Infrared will be scattered in the atmosphere, sure, and you have to think how this influences your measurements.
Measurements in different directions could help to distinguish between different infrared sources.
oobgular said:
Finally, we have been searching for a circuit component that detects light intensity in the 10 μm range. Have any of you used one in this range? It must detect intensity of the wavelength.
There are many commercial detectors for this wavelength range. You might have to filter out other wavelength ranges first if the detector doesn't do that.
 

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