Feasibility of My Son's Science Project?

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The discussion centers around the feasibility of a science project involving the construction of an arch dam and a turbine to generate electricity from water flow. Participants explore the design and functionality of the proposed project, including the use of materials and methods for generating power.

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Main Points Raised

  • Rick outlines a plan for his son's science project, which involves creating a dam and a turbine powered by water flow to generate electricity for an LED light.
  • One participant suggests that the project might work but recommends experimenting with the generator and LED components before constructing the dam.
  • Another participant proposes using a small DC fan instead of building custom turbine blades, citing a previous successful experience with a fan generating enough current to light an LED.
  • A different participant emphasizes the importance of maximizing pressure head by positioning the discharge pipe below the water surface to enhance turbine performance.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the turbine design, questioning whether it resembles a windmill or a water wheel, and suggests that a water wheel or impeller might be easier to construct.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present various ideas and suggestions, indicating a lack of consensus on the best approach for the turbine design and the overall feasibility of the project.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the optimal design of the turbine and the effectiveness of different generator options. The discussion reflects varying levels of experience and understanding among participants.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in DIY science projects, particularly those involving water power and electricity generation, may find this discussion relevant.

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I strongly suspect that this forum is absolute overkill for my question, and in fact, I would be just as happy to be referred to a more appropriate forum, since I was unable to locate one on my own.

My son is in 8th grade and has decided to create an arch damn for his Science project. He is using a large tub sectioned off with a water-sealed piece of plexiglass. There will be approximately 4 gallons of water behind the 'dam' with a small ~1" piece of PVC protruding through (the plexiglass) to allow water to escape into the 'river' below.

The plan, and here's the feasibility question, is to create a functional turbine from a small Radio Shack motor, the kind found in small remote control cars. Our thinking is to cut blades into a small circular piece of aluminum and attach it to the shaft of the motor with epoxy.

The idea then would be to insert the blades into the water flow of the PVC pipe so that the resulting motion of the motor would generate enough electricity to power a small LED light.

What do you think? Will it work?

Thanks,
Rick
 
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Welcome to PF. :smile:

It might work. I think you'll want to do some experimenting with the generator-and-LED part of things, before proceeding with making the tub-dam.

You might instead consider using a small DC fan, as sold for use in computers, as the generator. Then you won't have to worry about building and attaching your own turbine blades.

I have used such a fan to visibly light up an LED, by simply turning the blades by hand. You can experiment with water coming out of a sink faucet, to get a sense of whether the dam would generate sufficient current.

You can get a fan and LED for under $20. That's not too much to invest to find out if the idea is workable.

Good luck!
 
You will want to have the discharge pipe as far below the surface of the upstream "lake" as possible to create as much pressure head as you can. This is what drives your turbine. Keep the discharge above the "river" side also, but just slightly so. The more head you can develop, the more velocity you can get through your turbine.
 
I'm having trouble visualising what you mean for the turbine.

Are you making it like a windmill or fan, where the flow is axial and the blades are at an angle?

Have you considered a water wheel or impeller type, id suspect that was easier to make.
 

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