Feeling Like Giving Up: Options for a Physics Graduate School Applicant

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In summary, the conversation is about the challenges and concerns of getting into graduate school as a physicist, particularly with a lower GPA and lack of internships. The speakers discuss the option of taking additional courses, such as programming, to improve their chances of employment and potentially their graduate school application. They also discuss the importance of taking the GRE early and potentially considering retaking it to improve their scores.
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Growing up i have always wanted to be a physicist. I knew since i was in first grade. But now that i am coming up on my last year i have little chances of getting into a grad school. I have around a 2.8-3.0 Major GPA and a 3.15 overall GPA. I have two publications with no internship. I worked very hard and thought this semester would show the level of dedication i put fourth but apparently it didn't. I normally don't complain about my grades because its not responsible of me (but i feel as though my grades were complete bull).
The family hurdles i have overcame, and the goals i have set really makes this semester a depressing fact when i start to realize that i may fall very short of my goal to be a physicist. I feel as though i have a good conceptual grasp of physics and i am a really good tutor but i seem to always fall short technically and i suppose just simple mistakes that are costly. Working to help support my family and myself, and commuting really had an adverse effect. All those excuses changes absolutely nothing, but it still stands that i feel as though i won't be able to get in.

What should i do? What are my options? Should i take some application/programming courses just so i can get employed? AHH freaking out please help.
 
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Programming makes you a valuable asset should you not make it into graduate school.

The caliber school you went to may affect how costly your grades will be to graduate admission.
 
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I don't care where i get into, and the school i go to isn't TOO good and doesn't have a Grad program but it has some great profs.
Do you think that i should still study and take the GRE or is it a lost cause.
 
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Lawrencel2 said:
Do you think that i should still study and take the GRE or is it a lost cause.

I feel for you brother, I'm in the same position. Kind of. I graduated in 1995 and instead of applying for grad school decided to "take some time off" as I had done nothing BUT go to school ever since I could remember. Make a long story short, that break turned out to be 18 years and I am now myself studying for the GRE. In fact, I just took a practice test and bombed it! It is, for me, been an entirely depressing and frustrating experience. I am fairly well known in the small specialty (biology) community I study in, and have published a number of major review articles and given a good number of conference talks over the past 18 years. I feel insulted that I'm being rewarded for that effort by having to take what I feel to be a remedial exam which is basically just a collection a trick questions designed to fool a clear, logically thinking mind. My brain rejects such chicanery so it makes it very difficult for me to concentrate on learning the tricks you need to know for the test.

So, if my story can serve as a lesson for you, I'd recommend taking the GRE as soon as possible before you get too jaded and focused in one specialty like I am. Then at least you won't have to worry about resenting having to take it down the road if your path toward academia takes a few detours.
 
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Lawrencel2 said:
Growing up i have always wanted to be a physicist. I knew since i was in first grade. But now that i am coming up on my last year i have little chances of getting into a grad school. I have around a 2.8-3.0 Major GPA and a 3.15 overall GPA. I have two publications with no internship. I worked very hard and thought this semester would show the level of dedication i put fourth but apparently it didn't. I normally don't complain about my grades because its not responsible of me (but i feel as though my grades were complete bull).
The family hurdles i have overcame, and the goals i have set really makes this semester a depressing fact when i start to realize that i may fall very short of my goal to be a physicist. I feel as though i have a good conceptual grasp of physics and i am a really good tutor but i seem to always fall short technically and i suppose just simple mistakes that are costly. Working to help support my family and myself, and commuting really had an adverse effect. All those excuses changes absolutely nothing, but it still stands that i feel as though i won't be able to get in.

What should i do? What are my options? Should i take some application/programming courses just so i can get employed? AHH freaking out please help.

You have 2 publications, which depending on the field you want to apply to, almost certainly makes you a rarity among grad school applicants with comparable and even better grades.

Since you still have a year of coursework before you graduate, you might try spreading it out into 3 or 4 semesters and tacking on advanced graduate courses to prove yourself to graduate schools that your past performance is an anomaly and/or marketable programming courses in java/SQL/C++ to keep your options open. This will help you both inside and out of academic setting provided you can afford it. I wish I had the option of doing this.

I wouldn't wait longer on taking the PGRE at least the first time. As time goes on, they won't become any easier after you graduate as it is essentially a test of memory and quick physical reasoning, but mostly the former. If you do indeed spread out your coursework as I am suggesting, you'd have the chance to do better in your courses and retake the PGRE in April and the following fall once again and really get a decent score.
 
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If you can get your grades up in your last year, a common trick is to get your masters degree first. Some master's programs have less strenuous admission requirements. In addition, if you perform well in those masters classes, they will show that you can handle grad level work. Then you can apply for a Ph.D. program with a better GPA and proof that you can keep up.
 

FAQ: Feeling Like Giving Up: Options for a Physics Graduate School Applicant

1. What options do I have if I feel like giving up on applying to physics graduate school?

There are several options available to you if you are feeling discouraged about your chances of being accepted into a physics graduate program. One option is to take a break and reassess your goals and motivations for pursuing a graduate degree. Another option is to seek advice and guidance from mentors, professors, or career counselors. Additionally, you may consider applying to a wider range of schools or exploring alternative programs, such as master's degrees or research internships.

2. How can I improve my chances of getting accepted into a physics graduate program?

Some ways to improve your chances of being accepted into a physics graduate program include maintaining a strong academic record, obtaining research experience, securing strong letters of recommendation, and crafting a compelling personal statement. It is also helpful to reach out to potential advisors or faculty members at the schools you are interested in to express your interest and ask for advice.

3. What if I have a low GPA or GRE score? Does that mean I should give up on applying to physics graduate school?

No, having a low GPA or GRE score does not necessarily mean you should give up on applying to physics graduate school. While these factors are important, admissions committees also consider other aspects such as research experience, letters of recommendation, and personal statements. It may be helpful to address any weaknesses in your application and highlight your strengths in other areas.

4. Is it worth pursuing a graduate degree in physics if I am feeling burnt out or unsure about my career goals?

This is a personal decision that ultimately depends on your individual circumstances and goals. It may be helpful to take some time to reflect on your interests and goals, and to seek advice from mentors and peers. You may also consider exploring different career paths in physics, such as industry or academia, to gain a better understanding of your options.

5. How do I handle rejection from physics graduate programs?

Rejection can be difficult to handle, but it is important to remember that it is not a reflection of your worth or potential as a scientist. It may be helpful to reach out to the admissions committee for feedback on your application, and to seek support from mentors, friends, or family. Remember to stay positive and keep exploring other options and opportunities that align with your goals and interests.

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