Ferris Eugene Alger

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The discussion centers on Ferris Eugene Alger, a notable inventor recognized for his contributions to vacuum tube technology, particularly the compression glass to metal seal. Alger, who scored an extraordinary 197 on an IQ test, faced significant challenges due to poverty, which impacted his recognition. Contrary to assumptions, patents are not classified but are publicly filed with the Patent & Trademark Office (PTO) and can be classified only under specific national security provisions. The conversation also touches on the historical context of patent classification during wartime, particularly WWII.

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First thing you do is search for the Szilard papers. Yes that Szilard. I had assumed Alger's patents were classified by the government which is why his name was being scrubbed from the internet. I still think this but the real story is more complicated. This is a man who scorred 197 on an IQ test while he was in school Which is the one in a billion level but was generally screwed by the world because of his poverty. One of his inventions is the compression glass to metal seal used in vacuum tubes. We still make these tubes today and his paternts are still in use. I reached out to the high IQ community to see if there is any one who knew him. If so expect an article Noesis which is available for free on the web.
 
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zerodish said:
patents were classified by the government
Patents are not classified. Patents are filed with the Patent & Trademark Office (PTO) and are published in the public domain. Often patents are filed in other nations and with the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO). If some piece of technology is classified, it cannot be patented.
 
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zerodish said:
This is a man who scorred 197 on an IQ test
hope this guy has other achievements:)
 
Astronuc said:
Patents are not classified.
During wartime, patents were selectively classified as secret, and not published, to prevent the enemy from gaining the information.
 
Baluncore said:
During wartime, patents were selectively classified as secret, and not published,
Certainly, during WWII and perhaps WWI.

The US government does have a provision for 'secret patents' or 'classified patents', which usually initiates with a review of patent applications for specific technology, which has been identified as sensitive to national security. Usually such patents are developed by DOE, DOD, NASA and corporations (defense contractors).
https://www.dtsa.mil/SitePages/assessing-and-managing-risk/patent-security-reviews.aspx
https://www.upcounsel.com/classified-patents
https://www.acquisition.gov/far/part-27

Patents, which are published (in the public domain), are not 'classified'.

It's not clear from the OP, to what patents the OP is referring.

During WWII, the some vacuum tube technology was probably patented is the technology was used in 'defense' applications. The cavity magnetron was maintained in secret from it's inception and for some time after the war.

Patents have an expiration date as most classified documents. The latter might be 25 years, 50 years, or longer depending on the significance (or gravity) of the classified information/technology.


https://slate.com/technology/2018/0...he-u-s-government-refuses-to-make-public.html
https://sgp.fas.org/othergov/invention/index.html
 
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Alger was in Guinness book of world records. So I tried to find information on him on a regular basis. I came across a patent for a maser that works in outher space. That was it no other information other than it existed. Other sources called him a mechanical genius. Glass can't be bent but you can compress it all you like. That was the basis of his tube patents which I am interested in and shoud have been in general engineering books. He said his patents were worth millions that would be hundreds of millions in todays dollars. My father Everett Ramsey has 11 patents in control engineering that have made Alcoa over a billion dollars.
 

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