Ferris Wheel Problem: Find r, ω, Times for 80ft Height

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The problem involves a Ferris wheel with a radius of 100 feet, rotating at a constant angular speed. The rider measures the time taken to reach a specific height, which is level with a 44 ft pole, starting from the lowest point of the ride. The task is to determine the angular speed and the times when the rider reaches a height of 80 feet.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to find the angular speed by using trigonometric relationships and considers the implications of the coordinate system on the height calculations.
  • Some participants question the setup of the height equation and the implications of the sine function's periodicity when determining multiple times for the height of 80 feet.
  • Others suggest considering the periodic nature of the sine function to find additional solutions for the time variable.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the sine function and its periodicity. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of arcsin and the existence of multiple solutions, but no consensus has been reached on the method to find the second time value.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of the problem's parameters and the imposed coordinate system, which affects their calculations. There is also a focus on ensuring that the answers are accurate to three decimal places.

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Homework Statement


A Ferris wheel of radius 100 feet is rotating at a constant angular speed ω rad/sec counterclockwise. Using a stopwatch, the rider finds it takes 5 seconds to go from the lowest point on the ride to a point Q, which is level with the top of a 44 ft pole. Assume the lowest point of the ride is 3 feet above ground level.

Let Q(t)=(x(t),y(t)) be the coordinates of the rider at time t seconds; i.e., the parametric equations. Assuming the rider begins at the lowest point on the wheel, then the parametric equations will have the form: x(t)=rcos(ωt-π/2) and y(t)=rsin(ωt -π/2), where r,ω can be determined from the information given. Provide answers below accurate to 3 decimal places. (Note: We have imposed a coordinate system so that the center of the ferris wheel is the origin. There are other ways to impose coordinates, leading to different parametric equations.)

Find r, find ω. During the first revolution find the times when the riders height is 80ft.


Homework Equations


x(t)=rcos(ωt-π/2)
y(t)=rsin(ωt -π/2)

The Attempt at a Solution


The radius is obviously already given to me. To find ω I drew a triangle with vertices at the origin, Q, and at (0, 44). The hypotenuse was 100 ft, and the adjacent side to the angle I was trying to find was (103-44) or 59 ft. To find the angle I need I found the inverse cosine of (59/100) and divided it by 5. The angular speed rounded to 3 decimal places is .188

To find the times when the rider's height is 80ft is where I'm having problems. According to the problem the origin is the center of the wheel does that mean I set y=(80-103)?
 
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Cascadian said:
does that mean I set y=(80-103)?
Looks right to me.
 
Thank you, turns out I was on the right track. Here's what I did.

-23=100sin(.1879474972t-π/2)
-.23=sin.1879474972t-π/2
-.2320776829=.1879474972t-π/2
t=7.123

Now the problem is I'm not sure how to find the second time.
 
When you invert the sine function you get, in principle, infinitely many solutions. What are all the values of arcsin(sin(x))?
 
All I knew is this.
arcsin(sin.1879474972t-π/2)=1879474972t-π/2

Did I do something wrong or what should I do?
 
The sine function is periodic, i.e. as x increases y=sin(x) keeps taking the same set of values again and again. Therefore 'the angle whose sine is y' has many possible values. The arcsin function is defined, by convention, to take the value between -pi/2 and +pi/2, but there is an infinity of other x values.
Draw a circle. Starting at the bottom, go around it clockwise until you have gone through some angle theta < pi. Draw a horizontal line through that point. Now continue around until you hit that line again on the right hand half of the circle. What angle have you gone through now (in total)?
 

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