Few Questions about building a Solar Oven.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design and construction of a solar oven for a project in an Environmental Science class, specifically focusing on the use of a circular paraboloid shape to concentrate sunlight for baking a cookie. The conversation includes theoretical considerations, material choices, and practical construction questions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that a circular paraboloid can effectively focus sunlight to cook food, referencing the reflective properties of parabolas.
  • Another participant discusses the concept of a locus in relation to parabolas and suggests a specific design known as the Parvati Parabolic Cooker, mentioning the use of a black box for heat absorption.
  • Questions are raised about the materials to use for constructing the frame of the paraboloid, specifically seeking options that are inexpensive and have a high albedo.
  • There is inquiry about the impact of the size of the paraboloid on the cooking temperature of the cookie, with an emphasis on achieving high heat.
  • One participant asks whether placing glass on top of the paraboloid would insulate the oven effectively or if it would reduce light intensity too much.
  • Another participant suggests that using glass could create a greenhouse effect, but acknowledges the uncertainty and suggests experimentation.
  • There is a proposal to use a rod to support a platform at the focus for baking a single cookie.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various ideas and suggestions, but there is no consensus on specific construction methods or material choices. The discussion remains open-ended with multiple viewpoints presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved the questions regarding the optimal materials, the effects of size on cooking temperature, or the use of glass for insulation. The discussion includes assumptions about the effectiveness of different designs and materials without definitive conclusions.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in DIY solar cooking, environmental science projects, or those exploring the principles of solar energy and thermal dynamics may find this discussion relevant.

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I hope I am posting this on the right section...

In my Environmental Science Class, we are to design and build a solar oven(without using solar panels!). We will be baking a cookie.

Me, being a "mathematician", remembered something about a parabola, that if light ray hits anywhere on the interior surface, it will reflect through its focus. I assumed for realistic three dimensions, this will work for a circular paraboloid(confirm that please). i.e. zr^2=x^2+y^2

If I put a cookie at its focus, it should cook well(or ignite).

The surface of the circular paraboloid will be reflectable

I have a few questions-

1. How exactly DO I create the frame of a circular paraboloid? I can't just stare at my calculator and yell "materialize!"

2. What material should I use that has a high albedo, but is cheap-ish? I will spend no more than $30 on this.

3. How will the size of the paraboloid effect the heat of the cookie?
THE HOTTER THE BETTER. I want a high powered oven, if the cookie turns to ash, I'd be ecstatic.
 
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You are right about the parabola first of all. Remember many many years ago when we first started learning about complex shapes. Remember the concept of a locus (loci?? sp?). Anyways, the locus of a parabola is a group of points that lie equidistant from a point and a straight line. See the wikipedia page for a proof showing the favorable reflective properties.

Anyways, having seen a man win $100k for a solar oven, I briefly looked at some designs. Unless you want to spin a large amount of liquid metal into a parabola, you're going to have discretize it (for lack of a better word). A common design that I've seen it referred to as a Parvati Parabolic Cooker.

Check out this site which has pretty good instructions for how to make a type of oven.

http://www.angelfire.com/80s/shobhapardeshi/ParvatiCooker.html

It seems that a common way to do this is to include a black box which will absorb the heat. Good luck,
 
Okay thanks, now I other questions.

Should I place glass at the top of the paraboloid to insulate the oven, or will light be dimmed too much?

Should I put a rod from the bottom point to the focus and putting a small level platform on it because I will be baking ONE cookie?
 
Glass on top contributing to a "greenhouse" effect may be good. There's only one way to find out!
 

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