Fibonacci sequence problem (simple?)

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The problem involves simplifying the expression $\sum_{1}^{n} F_{2i} \cdot F_{2i-1}$, where $F_n$ represents Fibonacci numbers defined in the usual manner. The original poster expresses difficulty in finding a simpler form, despite the problem being categorized as introductory.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss known identities related to Fibonacci numbers and suggest manipulating these identities to simplify the original expression. There are attempts to express $F_{2i} \cdot F_{2i-1}$ in terms of other Fibonacci numbers, and questions arise about the proper use of these identities.

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Some participants are actively engaging with the problem, proposing methods to reframe the sum using Fibonacci identities. There is an acknowledgment of the challenges faced with LaTeX formatting, which may affect the clarity of mathematical expressions shared in the discussion.

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The original poster notes that this problem is part of an introductory chapter in their study material, indicating a potential expectation for it to be straightforward. There is also mention of a specific formula from the text that may be relevant to the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Write the following expression in a simpler form:
[tex]$\sum_{1}^{n} F_{2i} \cdot F_{2i-1}$[/tex]

It doesn't have to be closed-form, probably something on the line of:
[tex]$\sum_{0}^{n} F_{i}^{2} = F_{n} \cdot F_{n+1}$[/tex]

(We define the sequence the ususal way, starting the indexing from 0 with the first element itself being 0. So the first 6 elements from i=0 to i=5 are: 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5)

Homework Equations


The second equation from part 1.

The Attempt at a Solution


This is my first serious self-study effort, aimed at properly learning analysis. This problem appears in the first, introductory chapter of my book with topics like methods of proof, induction, sets. I solved all the other problems and went on to the next chapter, but this is still bugging me... :) Especially, since it's only in the introductory chapter, it's supposed to be "easy"... :)
I applied the formula in section 2. and now I'm stuck.
 
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What identities do you know for Fibonacci numbers?

Since F2i = F2i-1 + F2i-2, you might try solving this for F2i-1, then plug this back into your sum to get one sum minus another.

F2i · F2i-1 = F2i · (F2i - F2i-2) = F2i · (F2i - F2(i-1))
 
Thx, I'll try. For example:

Since:
[tex]$F_{n-1} = F_{n} + F_{n-2}$[/tex]
Then:
[tex]$F_{2i} \cdot F_{2i-1} = F_{2i}^2 - F_{2i} \cdot F_{2i-2}$[/tex]
Now use:
[tex]$F_{n+1} \cdot F_{n-1} = F_{n}^2 + (-1)^n$[/tex]
...

We'll see :)

EDIT: why isn't the latex code showing properly? :(
 
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EDIT: why isn't the latex code showing properly? :(
There is a quirky feature to using LaTeX on this site. After hitting "Preview Post" or "Submit Reply", you must hit your browser's "Refresh button". Apparently, some cache memory doesn't get cleared properly.
 

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