Field strength tensor / matrix

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The discussion centers on the field strength tensor, F^{\mu\nu}, which can be expressed in two different notations, leading to confusion about their equivalence. Both forms arise from the definition of the tensor as F^{\mu\nu} = ∂^{\mu}A^{\nu} - ∂^{\nu}A^{\mu}, yet they differ in the signs of the electric and magnetic field components. The discrepancy is attributed to the conventions used for defining metrics and the treatment of covariant versus contravariant vectors. Despite the differences, both notations are practically equivalent and yield the same physical results in Maxwell's equations and the Lagrangian formulation. Understanding these conventions is essential for consistent application in theoretical physics.
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In my note,
we have written the field strength tensor as:

F^{\mu\nu} =\partial ^\mu A^\nu -\partial ^\nu A^\mu = <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> \begin{pmatrix}<br /> 0&amp;E_x &amp;E_y&amp;E_z \\<br /> -E_x&amp;0 &amp;B_z &amp;-B_y \\<br /> -E_y&amp;-B_z &amp;0 &amp;B_x \\<br /> -E_z&amp;B_y &amp;-B_x&amp;0 <br /> \end{pmatrix}<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />

But if I look into another book or wiki it is written as:


<br /> F^{\mu\nu} =\partial ^\mu A^\nu -\partial ^\nu A^\mu = <br /> \begin{pmatrix}<br /> 0&amp;-E_x &amp;-E_y&amp;-E_z \\<br /> E_x&amp;0 &amp;-B_z &amp;B_y \\<br /> E_y&amp;B_z &amp;0 &amp;-B_x \\<br /> E_z&amp;-B_y &amp;B_x&amp;0 <br /> \end{pmatrix}<br /> <br /> <br />


Why is it possible to write the field strength tensor in both notations?
And are both notations really equal?

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It depends on how you define your metric and thus the ∂^{μ}
 
I think it comes from that $$F^{\alpha \beta} $$ is an antysymmetric tensor. So I can use $$F^{\beta \alpha} =-F^{ \alpha \beta}$$ but I am not sure.
Need help^^

Both definitions of $$\partial ^\mu$$ are in both cases equal.
 
Well then try for example to write the first line:
F^{0i}=∂^{0}A^{i}-∂^{i}A^{0}
Now I am not sure about minus/plus conventions I would write it:
F^{0i}=\frac{∂A^{i}}{∂t}-∇_{i}Φ= Ε^{i}
So that's what I'd use...
it has to do I guess with how you define covariant and contravariant vectors.
 
Abigale said:
In my note,
we have written the field strength tensor as:

F^{\mu\nu} =\partial ^\mu A^\nu -\partial ^\nu A^\mu = <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> \begin{pmatrix}<br /> 0&amp;E_x &amp;E_y&amp;E_z \\<br /> -E_x&amp;0 &amp;B_z &amp;-B_y \\<br /> -E_y&amp;-B_z &amp;0 &amp;B_x \\<br /> -E_z&amp;B_y &amp;-B_x&amp;0 <br /> \end{pmatrix}<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />

But if I look into another book or wiki it is written as:


<br /> F^{\mu\nu} =\partial ^\mu A^\nu -\partial ^\nu A^\mu = <br /> \begin{pmatrix}<br /> 0&amp;-E_x &amp;-E_y&amp;-E_z \\<br /> E_x&amp;0 &amp;-B_z &amp;B_y \\<br /> E_y&amp;B_z &amp;0 &amp;-B_x \\<br /> E_z&amp;-B_y &amp;B_x&amp;0 <br /> \end{pmatrix}<br /> <br /> <br />


Why is it possible to write the field strength tensor in both notations?

Because you can use either one to write the correct form of Maxwell equations:
\partial_{ \mu } F_{ 1 }^{ \mu \nu } = - \partial_{ \mu } F_{ 2 }^{ \mu \nu } = - e J^{ \nu }

And are both notations really equal?

How can they be equal? F_{ 1 }^{ \mu \nu } = - F_{ 2 }^{ \mu \nu }.
 
well the problem is that both notations are practically equivalent- you will just have to define differently the current 4vector...
In the Lagrangian what appears is the F_{μν}F^{μν}, and whether you have them with a minus each, they will lead in the same equations of motion...
 
Time reversal invariant Hamiltonians must satisfy ##[H,\Theta]=0## where ##\Theta## is time reversal operator. However, in some texts (for example see Many-body Quantum Theory in Condensed Matter Physics an introduction, HENRIK BRUUS and KARSTEN FLENSBERG, Corrected version: 14 January 2016, section 7.1.4) the time reversal invariant condition is introduced as ##H=H^*##. How these two conditions are identical?

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