Fields through an insulating slab

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The discussion revolves around understanding electric fields and flux in the context of an insulating slab. Participants are exploring how the properties of the insulating material affect charge distribution and field calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants express confusion about the implications of the slab being insulating and how this affects charge distribution. Questions arise regarding the missing function for E_x and the calculations of flux through various surfaces of the slab.

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Some participants have attempted calculations related to the flux exiting different surfaces and are seeking further guidance on their reasoning. There is an ongoing exploration of how to apply Gauss's Law and the concept of superposition in this context.

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Participants note that the problem involves a large insulating slab, which may influence the assumptions about electric field behavior and charge distribution. There are references to specific flux values and the need to check units in calculations.

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After writing this, I realized that I really have no idea what I'm going on about. Mainly, I don't understand the significance of it being an insulating object. I gather this means the charge is distributed uniformly throughout the object, rather than at the surfaces, but I don't know how I can use this to answer the question(s). Any guidance towards getting the right answer is appreciated. Thank you.
 
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It says E_x is a function of x but then doesn't give the function? (Only gives it at x = 0.)
 
rude man said:
It says E_x is a function of x but then doesn't give the function? (Only gives it at x = 0.)

Yes. Everything I know about the problem is included in the image.
 
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After writing this, I realized that I really have no idea what I'm going on about. Mainly, I don't understand the significance of it being an insulating object. I gather this means the charge is distributed uniformly throughout the object, rather than at the surfaces, but I don't know how I can use this to answer the question(s). Any guidance towards getting the right answer is appreciated. Thank you.

In part c, you have calculated the total flux exiting the rectangular solid by using Gauss's Law.

I part a, you have the flux exiting the 'front' surface. In part b, you have the flux exiting the 'sides'.

From that you should be able to come up with the flux exiting the 'back' surface. From this, find E at the back surface.
 
SammyS said:
In part c, you have calculated the total flux exiting the rectangular solid by using Gauss's Law.

I part a, you have the flux exiting the 'front' surface. In part b, you have the flux exiting the 'sides'.

From that you should be able to come up with the flux exiting the 'back' surface. From this, find E at the back surface.

So the total flux from the charge is -2710. As it states it's part of a very large slab, we treat it as part of an infinite one, so the field has a component only in the x direction. Thus, half of the flux goes from the front, half through the back. From the E field from the start, there is a flux of 750 from each surface, giving a total flux as -2710+1500=-1210. As there are two surfaces, the flux through the back one is -605. Using [itex]\phi=EA[/itex], we get a value for E as -100.83N/C.

I'm pretty sure that's wrong, but it's the best I can do from what you've told me. Could you help further?

EDIT:

How about this: At x=0, there is a flux of 750 in the positive x direction. The flux from the charge is half of the total flux (By above reasoning), which means the total flux from the original electric field would have been (2710/2) + 750 = 2105. Thus, the flux through the back would be this plus the flux from the charge, which are both towards the positive x direction, giving 2105+ (2710/2) = 3460. To find the value of E at this surface, divide by the area to give 3460/6 = 576.6N/C

This seems better to me?
 
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Fluxthroughme said:
So the total flux from the charge is -2710. As it states it's part of a very large slab, we treat it as part of an infinite one, so the field has a component only in the x direction. Thus, half of the flux goes from the front, half through the back. From the E field from the start, there is a flux of 750 from each surface, giving a total flux as -2710+1500=-1210. As there are two surfaces, the flux through the back one is -605. Using [itex]\phi=EA[/itex], we get a value for E as -100.83N/C.

I'm pretty sure that's wrong, but it's the best I can do from what you've told me. Could you help further?

EDIT:

How about this: At x=0, there is a flux of 750 in the positive x direction. The flux from the charge is half of the total flux (By above reasoning), which means the total flux from the original electric field would have been (2710/2) + 750 = 2105. Thus, the flux through the back would be this plus the flux from the charge, which are both towards the positive x direction, giving 2105+ (2710/2) = 3460. To find the value of E at this surface, divide by the area to give 3460/6 = 576.6N/C

This seems better to me?
You can do the problem by superposition, which is what it appears you are doing -- without actually stating that.

If there were no external field, then yes, half the flux due to the charged slab would exit (or enter) the front surface (x=0), and half would exit (or enter) the back surface (x=-1).

The flux through each of the front and back of the rectangular solid (due only to the slab) would be -2710/2 = -1355 Nm2/C . Check your units. BTW: 1 Nm2/C = 1Vm. (That's Volt∙meter)

From the flux and the area of each face, you can find the E-field strength.

Superimpose upon that a uniform field extending throughout all space, which when added to the field at the front surface gives a resulting field of 125 N/C .
 

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