Financial/Commodity Trading: which MSc? : Have a Physics BSc

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The discussion revolves around the potential MSc programs that a participant with a BSc in Physics should consider for a career in financial or commodity trading. The conversation touches on various degree options and their relevance to trading employers, as well as broader career implications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in trading and lists four MSc options, questioning the relevance of each to trading employers.
  • Concerns are raised about the utility of an MSc in Materials Science and whether it would attract trading employers.
  • Another participant critiques the BBC documentary, suggesting that decisions should not be based on it and emphasizes the need for a strong quantitative background in finance for roles like quantitative analyst.
  • There is skepticism about the feasibility of competing in trading against well-resourced individuals and firms, with one participant suggesting that success in trading may be more about luck than skill.
  • A participant advises focusing on personal enjoyment in one's work, indicating that skills and programming experience may be more valuable than the specific degree specialization.
  • Concerns are reiterated about the potential lack of applicability of an MSc in Computational Finance & Trading if the participant does not pursue a career in trading.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the value of the BBC documentary and the relevance of various MSc programs to trading careers. There is no consensus on which degree would be most beneficial for entering the trading field.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the uncertainty regarding the job market for different MSc specializations and the importance of personal interest and skills over specific degree titles. The discussion reflects a range of perspectives on the relationship between education and career success in trading.

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A programme was broadcast last week at 9pm on BBC2 entitled Traders: Millions by the Minute

radiotimes.com/episode/c4y6xg/traders-millions-by-the-minute--series-1---episode-1

Of particular interest was the group of people based in London, who were being tested to determine if they had the ability to trade live with real money which belonged to the company in question.

I would have some interest in this field. I shall be graduating with a BSc Physics degree, and was wondering which MSc would potentially help in this role?

Possible options are:
1) MSc Materials Science (lower Russell Group uni)
2) MSc Advanced Composities & Polymers (ex-poly uni)
3) MSc Computational Finance & Trading (lower Russell Group uni)
4) MSc Plasma Physics (lower Russell Group uni)


Concern with option 1): would a MSc Materials Science be of interest to trading employers?

Concerns with option 2): this is not a Russell Group uni, also would this degree be of interest to trading employers?

Concerns with option 3): potentially this course will be of little use outside trading if I later discover I'm not suited to trading (as was the case last night with one guy who had an MSc Business). Also, possibly no point taking this course if going to be working in the field, since probably need to work in the field to genuinely understand it.

Concern with option 4): there are considerably more jobs available in the field of Materials Science than Plasma Physics, therefore MSc Materials Science more useful if looking for a non-trading job.
 
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The BBC2 doco was rubbish - do not make decisions based on it.
Have a look at: http://www.investopedia.com/articles/financialcareers/08/quants-quantitative-analyst.asp
To be employed as a quantitative analyst (say) you need a background in finance and a strongly quantitative science that uses computer models a lot. Some of the edgier companies may be taking risks on people from the endges of physics - but you'd basically have to know them to talk to first to get a look-see. There is no road-map for this stuff.
 
Thank you Simon.
 
That BBC documentary is such junk. If you think you can beat people devoting loads of resources and are in the know (ie have access to information you dont) at home you are a chump and should just buy a lotto ticket.Also these guys are in their "up" times and can say they are doing everything right but in a stochastic process some people are going to win no matter what they do but are just as likely to lose later.
 
I haven't watched the documentary but my advice is to work on whatever you enjoy the most! If you're truly good at a skill, there's a multitude of ways to get wealthy doing it, you probably don't want to be in finance if you're optimizing your career path for wealth anyway.

If it helps, programming experience and the quality of your research publications will generally weigh in your favor more so than your specific specialization. Your mileage may vary depending on the actual firm that you're applying to.
 
Thanks guys, I suppose one big issue I'd have with doing option 3) is that if I didn't go into trading that it would be a completely useless MSc in any other field.
 

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