Find 2 Unit Vectors at Angle π/3 with <3,4> using Dot Product

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The discussion revolves around finding two unit vectors that form an angle of π/3 with the vector <3, 4> using the dot product. Participants are exploring the geometric and algebraic properties of vectors in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss various methods to find the required unit vectors, including algebraic manipulation and geometric interpretation. Some question the complexity of the original poster's approach, suggesting alternative methods such as finding a perpendicular vector. Others raise concerns about specific calculations and assumptions made in the process.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's methods and calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding alternative approaches, and there is an ongoing examination of the correctness of specific steps in the calculations.

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Participants are navigating through potential errors in calculations and assumptions about vector properties, including perpendicularity and the implications of the dot product. There is a recognition of the complexity involved in the problem setup.

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find 2 unit vectors that make an angle of pi/3 with <3,4>

<3,4>dot<a,b>=5/2=3a+4b
b=5/8-3/4 a

|<a,b>|=1
such that
a^2+25/64+15/16a+9/16 a^2=1
25/16 a^2+15/16/ a=39/64
100a^2+60a=39
a^2+3/5a=39/100
(a+3/10)^2=48/100
a=(4sqrt(3)+-3)/10
so
b=5/8-(12sqrt(3)+9)/40
=(200-96sqrt(3)-72)/320
=(128-96sqrt(3))/320
=(32-24sqrt(3))/80
=(8-6sqrt(3))/20
=(4-3sqrt(3))/10
so far so good

b=5/8-(12sqrt(3)-9)/40
=(200-96sqrt(3)+72)/320
=(272-96sqrt(3))/320
=(68-24sqrt(3))/80
=(34-12sqrt(3))/40
=(17-6sqrt(3))/20 // correct me if I am wrong
 
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hi nameVoid! :smile:

your method looks basically correct (but i haven't checked it)

however, it's really complicated

try first finding the vector perpendicular to (3,4) and with the same magnitude :wink:
 
The solution for b2 is incorrect by the book
 
nameVoid said:
b=5/8-3/4 a

|<a,b>|=1
such that
a^2+25/64+15/16a+9/16 a^2=1

shouldn't it be minus 15/16 ? :wink:
 
Ah yes my mistake
 
Looking at <3, 4>, you should have seen that <4, -3> is perpendicular without needing to write anything!
 

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