Find a basis for the null space of the transpose operator

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The discussion centers on finding a basis for the null space of the transpose operator D^t in the context of polynomial spaces. The differentiation operator D maps polynomials in P_n to those of lower degree, and its transpose D^t is linked to the kernel of D. It is established that the dual basis {f_0, f_1, ..., f_n} corresponds to the basis {1, x, ..., x^n} of V, with f_n being the key element that annihilates polynomials lacking an x^n term. Clarifications on the dual space and the relationship between D and D^t are provided, emphasizing that the null space consists of linear functions that vanish on the image of D. The discussion concludes with a concise understanding of the null space's structure and its basis.
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Homework Statement



Let ##n## be a positive integer and let ##V = P_n## be the space of polynomials over ##R##. Let D be the differentiation operator on ##V## . Find a basis for the null space of the transpose operator ##D^t: V^*\to V^*##.

Homework Equations



Let ##T:V\to W## be a linear transformation. Then ##(im T)^0=kerT^t##
Let let ##\{f_0,f_1,...f_n\}## be a dual basis for ##\{v_0,...,v_n\}## then ##f_i(v_j)=\delta_{ij}##

The Attempt at a Solution


Let ##\{1,x,...x^n\}## be a basis for ##V## and let ##\{f_0,f_1,...f_n\}## be the dual basis. The image of ##D## is the set of polynomials with degree less than n. We know from ##f_i(v_j)=\delta_{ij}## that ##f_n## will annihilate any polynomial without an ##x^n## term. But that is the entire image of ##D## so ##\{f_n\}## is the basis we seek, where I used ##(im T)^0=kerT^t##.

I think this is correct, I'm just looking for tips to make it cleaner.
 
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What does that mean:

Find a basis for the null space of the transpose operator Dt:V∗→V∗.

What is the relation between D and DT?
What is the definition of V* ?
 
maajdl said:
What does that mean:

Find a basis for the null space of the transpose operator Dt:V∗→V∗.

What is the relation between D and DT?
What is the definition of V* ?
Sorry for my lack of understanding, are you asking or prompting me to think harder because I missed something?
 
No, I just ask because I think I might answer if I understood the question a bit more.
By the way, informal discussion is often helpful.
That's my own experience.
 
I just understood that your question involved the dual space and Dt is probably the equivalent of D in this space.
On wikipedia, the dual space is defined on the basis of "coordinates" , which is not very encouraging for me.
How is the norm defined, how can I construct the dual space?
 
maajdl said:
I just understood that your question involved the dual space and Dt is probably the equivalent of D in this space.
On wikipedia, the dual space is defined on the basis of "coordinates" , which is not very encouraging for me.
How is the norm defined, how can I construct the dual space?

Hmm, very good questions. I'll take a crack at answering tomorrow night. I just finished my homework and need some sleep. Unless of course someone smarter than me (of which there are many to choose from) gets to it first.
 
nateHI said:

Homework Statement



Let ##n## be a positive integer and let ##V = P_n## be the space of polynomials over ##R##. Let D be the differentiation operator on ##V## . Find a basis for the null space of the transpose operator ##D^t: V^*\to V^*##.

maajdl said:
What does that mean:

Find a basis for the null space of the transpose operator Dt:V∗→V∗.

What is the relation between D and DT?
What is the definition of V* ?

If V is a vector space over \mathbb{R}, then the dual space V^{*} is the set of linear functions from V to \mathbb{R}. It is not necessary for V to be an inner product space or normed space for the dual space to be defined.

A linear map f: V \to W has a corresponding dual map f^{t} : W^{*} \to V^{*} given by
<br /> f^t : \phi \mapsto (\phi \circ f)<br />

Here we are asked for a basis of \ker D^t = \{\phi \in P_n^{*}: D^t(\phi) = 0\}, where D: v \mapsto v&#039; is the differentation operator on V.

nateHI said:

Homework Equations



Let ##T:V\to W## be a linear transformation. Then ##(im T)^0=kerT^t##
Let let ##\{f_0,f_1,...f_n\}## be a dual basis for ##\{v_0,...,v_n\}## then ##f_i(v_j)=\delta_{ij}##

The Attempt at a Solution


Let ##\{1,x,...x^n\}## be a basis for ##V## and let ##\{f_0,f_1,...f_n\}## be the dual basis. The image of ##D## is the set of polynomials with degree less than n. We know from ##f_i(v_j)=\delta_{ij}##

You need to define v_j = x^j.

that ##f_n## will annihilate any polynomial without an ##x^n## term. But that is the entire image of ##D## so ##\{f_n\}## is the basis we seek, where I used ##(im T)^0=kerT^t##.

I think this is correct, I'm just looking for tips to make it cleaner.

I think you have actually to say what f_n is, other than "the dual vector such that f_n(x^k) = \delta_{kn}".

The short proof is to write down
D^t(\phi)\left(\sum_{k=0}^n a_kx^k\right) = \sum_{k=1}^n ka_k\phi(x^{k-1})
and see that D^t(\phi) = 0 requires \phi(1) = \phi(x) = \dots = \phi(x^{n-1})= 0, so that \phi(v) = cv^{(n)}(0) for some scalar c.
 
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