Find amount of water at 20 degrees to melt 100 g ice

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The problem involves determining the amount of water at 20°C required to melt 100 g of ice initially at -18°C. The specific heat capacity of ice is provided, and the latent heat of fusion is a key factor in the calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to set up an energy balance equation involving the heat gained by the ice and the heat lost by the water. They express uncertainty about the latent heat and the mass of the water needed.
  • Some participants question the clarity of the problem statement, particularly regarding the temperature of the water and its relevance to the latent heat of fusion.
  • Others suggest that the latent heat of fusion is a constant that should be used directly in the calculations, regardless of the water's temperature.

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Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem includes multiple questions and that the temperature of the water is a critical detail that was initially unclear. There is also mention of the potential confusion surrounding the use of latent heat values from examples in the textbook.

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This an extra voluntary question on a physics assignment I've already handed in. But I still want to try and figure it out so here goes:


Homework Statement


This is what I'm told: "You take 100 g ice cubes from the freezer. The ice cubes' temperature is -18°C." The specific heat capacity of ice is 2,0 kJ/kg*K.

And then asked: "How big an amount of water at 20°C is required to melt the ice cubes from the freezer?"


Homework Equations


Qwater = cmΔT
Qice = mL

cwater*mwater*∆Twater+mice*Lmelt+cwater*mice*∆Tice=0

The Attempt at a Solution


I assume I need to find L, because in the examples in the book the L's used are for materials at either 0°C or 100°C, which I've isolated:

-Lmelt=(cwater*mwater*∆Twater)/(-mis )+(cwater*mice*∆Tice)/(-mice )

The problem is that I also don't know mwater because that's what the problem asks me to find. Will any amount of 20°C hot water melt the ice cubes eventually or something?
 
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You don't mention the water temperature in the problem statement. That's needed. You mention 20C later - is that given, or a number out of the air?
in the examples in the book the L's used are for materials at either 0°C or 100°C
What temperature do you think the ice will be at just before it melts?
 
That's because there are three questions attached to the problem statement. 20 degrees is the temperature of the water you use to melt the ice.

0 and 100 degrees is not related to the temperature of the ice, but of the water used to melt the ice.Edit: forgot to mention the 20 degrees when I translated the problem.
 
vtl said:
0 and 100 degrees is not related to the temperature of the ice, but of the water used to melt the ice.
Then I don't understand what that has to do with L. You wrote
in the examples in the book the L's used are for materials at either 0°C or 100°C
L stands for latent heat, right? The latent heat of fusion of ice is nothing to do with the temperature of the water used to melt it. It's a constant which you can just plug in.
 

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