Find an expression for linear momentum and torque

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The problem involves finding expressions for angular momentum and torque for a particle with a given weight and position vector, expressed in terms of time. The subject area includes concepts from dynamics and rotational motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between angular momentum, torque, weight, and the position vector. There are attempts to clarify the definitions and formulas related to angular momentum and torque, as well as the steps needed to derive them from the given information.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the formulas for angular momentum and torque, suggesting that the position vector can be differentiated to find velocity and acceleration. There is recognition of the need to relate these quantities to the equations for torque and angular momentum, but no explicit consensus has been reached on the final approach.

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Participants note the importance of the time derivatives of the position vector to find velocity and acceleration, and there is an acknowledgment of the given weight of the particle as a relevant factor in the calculations.

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Hi guys, I am hoping you can either point me in the right direction here or show me how to do this a bit. the problem is as follows:

"a particle with weight 86.8 N is positioned at r= (8.1t)i - (7.2t-9.4t2)j.
t is in seconds. Find an expression for angular momentum, L and torque, T which act on this particle." (i is the x vector and j is the y vector)

What I am not getting is how to relate L and T to the weight and position vector. Thanks for any help guys!
 
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Do you know how to find angular momentum in general?

Once you know how to find the angular momentum we can talk about the torque.
 
You should know that

[tex]\vec \tau = \vec r \times \vec F[/tex]

and also that

[tex]\vec L = \vec r \times m \vec v[/tex]
 
Okay so from this I find that
[tex]\bar{L}[/tex] = [tex]\bar{r}[/tex] x m[tex]\bar{v}[/tex]
and
[tex]\bar{\tau}[/tex] = [tex]\bar{r}[/tex] x m[tex]\bar{a}[/tex]

The difference between the two is the acceleration from the velocity. Acceleration is the derivative of velocity. So it looks like I find the linear momentum first and then since I have that I can solve for the velocity, take the derivative, sub into the torque equation and then solve the acceleration.

oh... that won't work will it.
 
Stickboy10 said:
Okay so from this I find that
[tex]\bar{L}[/tex] = [tex]\bar{r}[/tex] x m[tex]\bar{v}[/tex]
and
[tex]\bar{\tau}[/tex] = [tex]\bar{r}[/tex] x m[tex]\bar{a}[/tex]

The difference between the two is the acceleration from the velocity. Acceleration is the derivative of velocity. So it looks like I find the linear momentum first and then since I have that I can solve for the velocity, take the derivative, sub into the torque equation and then solve the acceleration.

oh... that won't work will it.

You are given the position vector. You can take a time derivative to find the velocity, and another time derivative to find the acceleration. You have the mass. You have everything. Just plug the position, velocity, and acceleration into the equations and you got it.

remember

[tex]\vec v = \frac{d \vec r}{dt}[/tex]

[tex]\vec a = \frac{d \vec v }{dt}[/tex]
 
Oh duh! I don't why I didnt see that! Thank you AlexChandler.
 

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