Find angle ADB in this isoceles triangle given some extra information

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The discussion revolves around finding angle ADB in an isosceles triangle using the sine rule. The initial calculations involve determining the lengths x and y, leading to the derivation of BD and ultimately angle m, which is found to be 150 degrees. Participants suggest alternative approaches, including simplifying the sine ratios and using double angle identities for more efficient calculations. The conversation highlights the complexity of the problem and the potential for different methods to arrive at the same conclusion. Overall, the thread emphasizes the collaborative effort to solve the geometric problem effectively.
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My take,

I have,

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then
using sine rule;

##\dfrac{x}{x+y} = \dfrac{\sin 20^{\circ}}{\sin 80^{\circ}}##

##\dfrac{x}{x+y} =0.347##

##x=3.47## then ##y=6.53##.

then,

##BD^2=3.47^2+10^2-(2×3.47×10×\cos 20^{\circ})##

##BD= 6.842##

...

##10^2=3.47^2+6.842^2-(2×3.47×6.842 ×\cos m)##

##41.15=-47.4696\cos m##

##\cos m = -0.866##

##m= 150^{\circ}##


there could be a better approach...just came across this question today.
 
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## \frac {x}{x+y} = \frac {\sin 20^\circ}{\sin 80^\circ} = \frac {\sin (160^\circ-m)}{\sin m} ##
 
Gavran said:
## \frac {x}{x+y} = \frac {\sin 20^\circ}{\sin 80^\circ} = \frac {\sin (160^\circ-m)}{\sin m} ##
@Gavran following your approach, i am ending up with ##\tan m = -0.5773##

I'll post steps later once I get my hands on laptop...(a bit tedious as you have to use sine expansion) as I am using phone to type.

We then end up with,

##m= -30^0##

...then repititive every ##180^0## for tan, implying

##m= -30^0+180^0=150^0##

Unless am missing something...that's how I look at your approach...
 
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Gavran said:
##\displaystyle \frac {x}{x+y} = \frac {\sin 20^\circ}{\sin 80^\circ} = \frac {\sin (160^\circ-m)}{\sin m} ##
I don't know if this will help OP, but ##\displaystyle\ \frac {\sin 20^\circ}{\sin 80^\circ}\ ## can be simplified to ##\displaystyle\ {2\sin 10^\circ}\ .## Use the double angle identity for ##\sin 20^\circ## and that ##\displaystyle \sin 80^\circ = \cos 10^\circ## .

Or simpler: Use a construction to find ##\displaystyle\ \sin \frac{20^\circ}{2} \ ## directly.
 
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SammyS said:
I don't know if this will help OP, but ##\displaystyle\ \frac {\sin 20^\circ}{\sin 80^\circ}\ ## can be simplified to ##\displaystyle\ {2\sin 10^\circ}\ .## Use the double angle identity for ##\sin 20^\circ## and that ##\displaystyle \sin 80^\circ = \cos 10^\circ## .

Or simpler: Use a construction to find ##\displaystyle\ \sin \frac{20^\circ}{2} \ ## directly.
Smart move man @SammyS
 
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