Find angle with pith ball and vertical wall

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The problem involves a pith ball with a charge hanging from a thread near a charged vertical wall. Participants are tasked with finding the angle the thread makes with the vertical, given specific parameters such as mass, charge, and surface charge density.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between tension, gravitational force, and the electric force acting on the pith ball. There are attempts to calculate the angle using trigonometric relationships and the electric field generated by the wall. Questions arise regarding the units used for mass and gravitational force.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided feedback on calculations, particularly regarding the conversion of mass from grams to kilograms. There is a recognition that adjusting this conversion affects the resulting angle, leading to a more plausible value. Multiple interpretations of the calculations are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are reminded to ensure proper unit conversions in their calculations, particularly for mass, which is critical for accurate results. The problem setup includes specific values for charge and surface charge density that are under discussion.

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1. The Question:
A 10.0 g pith ball, carrying a charge of 1.52 μC hangs from a thread attached to a charged vertical wall carrying a surface charge density σ = 3.57 μC/m2. Find the angle that the thread makes with the vertical.



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3. My attempt:

Tcosθ=mg Tsinθ=F
Canceling tension (sinθ/cosθ)=tanθ=(F/mg)
F=mgtanθ
σ=2ε0E
E=σ/2ε0=201694.9153
F=EQ=(201694.9153)(1.52E-6)=0.3065762712

F/mg= 0.0031283293 = tanθ
tan-1(0.0031283293) = 0.17924

Is this the correct angle?
 
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britt said:
1. The Question:
A 10.0 g pith ball, carrying a charge of 1.52 μC hangs from a thread attached to a charged vertical wall carrying a surface charge density σ = 3.57 μC/m2. Find the angle that the thread makes with the vertical.



Homework Equations





3. My attempt:

Tcosθ=mg Tsinθ=F
Canceling tension (sinθ/cosθ)=tanθ=(F/mg)
F=mgtanθ
σ=2ε0E
E=σ/2ε0=201694.9153
F=EQ=(201694.9153)(1.52E-6)=0.3065762712

F/mg= 0.0031283293 = tanθ
tan-1(0.0031283293) = 0.17924

Is this the correct angle?


Check your calculation of F/mg. The resulting value looks too small. Did you perhaps forget to change grams into kg for the mass?
 
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what are you using for Fgrav? (check the mass units!)
 
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when i changed g to kg i got the angle to be 72.3
 
britt said:
when i changed g to kg i got the angle to be 72.3

Yup. That looks better :smile:
 
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