How Do You Calculate the Angular Speed of a Rod?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the angular speed of a rod, particularly focusing on the interpretation of displacement and velocity of the center of mass (CM) in a dynamics context. Participants are examining the implications of horizontal impulse and gravitational effects on the motion of the rod.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between impulse and angular speed, questioning the interpretation of displacement as velocity. There is a discussion about the direction of the CM's motion and the effects of gravity on its trajectory.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the definitions of average speed and average velocity, while others have suggested that the CM behaves like a projectile after the rod leaves the table. The conversation indicates a productive exploration of the problem, with some participants arriving at a correct answer, though the details of the solution process remain open-ended.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the distinction between displacement and velocity, as well as the role of gravitational impulse in the motion of the rod. The problem context includes specific constraints about the initial conditions and the nature of the displacement provided.

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Homework Equations

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If I interpret "magnitude of displacement of CM per sec " as Velocity of CM ,then

Horizontal Impulse provided to the rod = J

##J = MV_{cm}##

Angular impulse about the CM = JL/2

##\frac{JL}{2} = I \omega ## ,where ##I = \frac{ML^2}{12}##

Solving the above equations ##\omega = 30\sqrt{2}##rad/s . This is not the correct answer .

Please help me with the problem .

Thanks.
 

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Vibhor said:

Homework Statement



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Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



If I interpret "magnitude of displacement of CM per sec " as Velocity of CM ,then

Horizontal Impulse provided to the rod = J

##J = MV_{cm}##

Angular impulse about the CM = JL/2

##\frac{JL}{2} = I \omega ## ,where ##I = \frac{ML^2}{12}##

Solving the above equations ##\omega = 30\sqrt{2}##rad/s . This is not the correct answer .

Please help me with the problem .

Thanks.

5√2 m is the magnitude of the displacement during the first second. It is not the velocity. It is the average speed. In what direction would the CM move? It gets a horizontal impulse, but gravity also acts on it.
 
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ehild said:
5√2 m is the magnitude of the displacement during the first second. It is not the velocity. It is the average speed.

Shouldn't that be magnitude of average velocity instead of average speed??

ehild said:
In what direction would the CM move? It gets a horizontal impulse, but gravity also acts on it.

The impulse due to gravity can be neglected , which means the CM initially moves towards right . Thereafter CM moves downwards . The path of CM would be like a projectile launched from a height . The rod rotates around the CM as well ??

But how should I use the magnitude of displacement per sec ??
 
Vibhor said:
Shouldn't that be magnitude of average velocity instead of average speed??
The impulse due to gravity can be neglected , which means the CM initially moves towards right . Thereafter CM moves downwards . The path of CM would be like a projectile launched from a height . The rod rotates around the CM as well ??

But how should I use the magnitude of displacement per sec ??

Yes, the CM moves like a projectile after the rod leaves the table. And it will rotate about the CM.
You are given the magnitude of displacement in the first second. It is not "displacement per sec". "Displacement per sec" or average velocity increases with time.
The CM gets an initial horizontal velocity Vo, and also falls vertically. What is the displacement in the first second in terms of Vo?
 
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Thank you very much ehild :smile: . I have got the correct answer .
 
You are welcome :oldsmile:
 

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