Find area of parallelogram given vertices

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The discussion revolves around finding the area of a parallelogram defined by its vertices A, B, and D in three-dimensional space. Participants are analyzing the calculation of the area using vector cross products.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to calculate the area using the formula involving the cross product of vectors AD and AB. There are discussions about the correctness of the vectors used and the resulting calculations.

Discussion Status

Multiple participants are exploring the calculations and questioning the accuracy of the vectors and the resulting area. There is a recognition of potential sign errors in the vector definitions, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or final answer.

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Some participants note that the vectors AD and AB may have been defined with incorrect signs, leading to discrepancies in the area calculation. The original poster's calculations are being scrutinized for accuracy.

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Homework Statement


Find the are of the parallelogram ABCD where A is (1,2,-3), B is (-1,3,-4) and D is (1,5,-2)

Homework Equations


Area=\left|AxB\right|
where A and B are the vectors AD, and AB respectively.

The Attempt at a Solution


I have calculated AD to be= (0,-3,-1)
and AB=(2,-1,1)

∴ to find \left|AxB\right| I subbed the two vectors into a 3x3 matrix. Finding the magnitude of th result, I calculated the area to be 2x\sqrt{11}. The Anser is 2x\sqrt{14}. What have I done wrong?
 
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Zashmar said:

Homework Statement


Find the are of the parallelogram ABCD where A is (1,2,-3), B is (-1,3,-4) and D is (1,5,-2)

Homework Equations


Area=\left|AxB\right|
where A and B are the vectors AD, and AB respectively.

The Attempt at a Solution


I have calculated AD to be= (0,-3,-1)
and AB=(2,-1,1)

∴ to find \left|AxB\right| I subbed the two vectors into a 3x3 matrix. Finding the magnitude of th result, I calculated the area to be 2x\sqrt{11}. The Anser is 2x\sqrt{14}. What have I done wrong?
You likely made an error in finding the vector product \vec{A}\times \vec{B}.

BTW: Use " \times " for ## \times\ ## .
 
Well I will show you how i did it because I cannot find an error:

i j k
0-3 1
2-1 1
^that is a matrix

So i got:
-2i+2j+6k

=Sqrt 44
=2 sqrt 11
 
Zashmar said:
Well I will show you how i did it because I cannot find an error:

i j k
0-3 1
2-1 1
^that is a matrix
Shouldn't the second row of your matrix be ##(0, -3, -1)## instead of ##(0, -3, 1)##?
 
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Zashmar said:

Homework Statement


Find the are of the parallelogram ABCD where A is (1,2,-3), B is (-1,3,-4) and D is (1,5,-2)


Homework Equations


Area=\left|AxB\right|
where A and B are the vectors AD, and AB respectively.


The Attempt at a Solution


I have calculated AD to be= (0,-3,-1)
and AB=(2,-1,1)
The first vector is actually DA, and the second is BA.
AD is -(DA) = <0, 3, 1>
and AB = -(BA) = <-2, 1, -1>.
Zashmar said:
∴ to find \left|AxB\right| I subbed the two vectors into a 3x3 matrix. Finding the magnitude of th result, I calculated the area to be 2x\sqrt{11}. The Anser is 2x\sqrt{14}. What have I done wrong?
 
Zashmar said:
Well I will show you how i did it because I cannot find an error:

i j k
0-3 1
2-1 1
^that is a matrix
The vectors you have in the OP will work. (They both have the sign error Mark pointed out.) .. but they will give ## 2 \, \sqrt{14} \ ## .
 

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