Find Center of Gravity of 3D Objects to Balance in Water

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the center of gravity of 3D objects, particularly in the context of balancing a body in water to ensure it moves in a straight line when propelled. Participants explore the implications of weight distribution, shape, and external forces on stability and movement.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about balancing a 3D object in water to achieve straight-line movement despite uneven weight distribution.
  • Another suggests that calculus is needed to find the center of gravity by summing the gravitational effects of point particles within the object.
  • A participant provides a mathematical expression for calculating the center of gravity and emphasizes the importance of the object's shape for stability.
  • It is noted that the shape of the object, rather than the center of gravity alone, influences turning behavior, with a high center of gravity potentially causing tilting.
  • A later reply questions whether the propeller's gyro effect might be responsible for tilting the boat, suggesting it could already be balanced.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the factors influencing the movement and stability of the object in water. There is no consensus on the primary cause of the tilting or the best approach to achieve straight-line movement.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the shape and design of the object remain unaddressed, and the discussion does not resolve how much to lower the center of gravity for optimal stability.

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To find the center of gravity of a 3-D object? The problem is to balance a body in water so that it moves in a straight line when propelled. As the weight distribution in the body is not even it is tilted to one side and when propelled tuns in the direction of tilt. How can the body be made to move in a straight line?
 
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Well to find the center of gravity you must do some calculus and find the summation of all the point particls in the object and their gravitys, divided by the mass... i think. well once you find the postions, any force acting in the direction of the center of gravity will be like acting on all of the point particles at once, therefore making it go in a straight line
 
To find the center of gravity you would calculate
<br /> \vec{x}_c=\frac{\iiint \vec{x}\mathrm{d}m}{M}<br />

However it might not be relevant in the way you imagine. The shape of the object is very important for a stable position. I have an article that describes how the moment of pitch and rolling should behave for the thing to keep a stable position. Let me know if you'd like to read the article and the involved maths.

Moreover, turning one direction doesn't depend on the center of gravity either. Only the shape of the boat determines if it will turn. Of course if the center of gravity is too high, then the boat tilts, changes the shape of the part submersed in water and thus turns.

Basically if you want your boat to float I assume you should have a symmetrical boat and lower the center of gravity. By how much to lower is hard to tell anyway.
 
Gerenuk said:
To find the center of gravity you would calculate
<br /> \vec{x}_c=\frac{\iiint \vec{x}\mathrm{d}m}{M}<br />

However it might not be relevant in the way you imagine. The shape of the object is very important for a stable position. I have an article that describes how the moment of pitch and rolling should behave for the thing to keep a stable position. Let me know if you'd like to read the article and the involved maths.

Moreover, turning one direction doesn't depend on the center of gravity either. Only the shape of the boat determines if it will turn. Of course if the center of gravity is too high, then the boat tilts, changes the shape of the part submersed in water and thus turns.

Basically if you want your boat to float I assume you should have a symmetrical boat and lower the center of gravity. By how much to lower is hard to tell anyway.


Could you please send me the article
 
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Are you sure it is not the gyro effect of the propeller that is tilting the boat and causing it to turn? It may already be perfectly balanced?
 

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