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The problem involves finding the centroid of a two-dimensional region bounded by the curves \(y = x^3\), \(y = 10\), and \(y = 0\). Participants are exploring the setup and calculations necessary to determine the centroid's coordinates.

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  • Some participants attempt to find the intersection points of the curves and set up integrals to calculate the area of the region. There are discussions about integrating with respect to \(y\) versus \(x\) and the implications of these choices on the calculations. Others question the correctness of the initial setup and suggest alternative methods for determining the area.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some expressing confusion about the setup and calculations. There are indications of productive feedback, as one participant acknowledges a mistake in interpreting the region and corrects their understanding of the coordinates for the centroid.

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There is mention of a potential misunderstanding regarding the bounds of integration and the interpretation of the curves involved. Some participants note that the area calculations may have been approached incorrectly initially.

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Homework Statement



Find the centroid of the region bounded by the given curves.

y = x^3x + y = 10y = 0

Homework Equations



\bar x = \frac{1}{A}\int^b_a xf(x) dx\bar y = \frac{1}{A}\int^b_a \frac{1}{2}(f(x))^2 dx
Where A is the area of the region containing the centroid.

The Attempt at a Solution



First thing I did was find the intersection of the curves x^3 = 10-x \Rightarrow x = 2 \Rightarrow P(2,8)
Then I put things in terms of y to integrate to find the area A of the region.y = x^3 \Rightarrow x = \sqrt[3] yx + y = 10 \Rightarrow x = 10 - yA = \int^8_0 ((10-y)-(\sqrt[3] y)) dy = 36
So \bar x = \frac{1}{A}\int^b_a yf(y) dy = \frac{1}{36}\int^8_0 y((10-y)-(\sqrt[3] y))dy = \frac{496}{189} \approx 2.63\bar y = \frac{1}{A}\int^b_a \frac{1}{2}(f(y))^2 dy = \frac{1}{36}\int^8_0 \frac{1}{2}((10-y)^2-(\sqrt[3] y)^2)dy = \frac{584}{135} \approx 4.33
So the centroid is at \left(\frac{496}{189},\frac{584}{135}\right)
What I'm getting here isn't correct. Thanks for commenting!
 
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octowilli said:

Homework Statement



Find the centroid of the region bounded by the given curves.

y = x^3x + y = 10y = 0

Homework Equations



\bar x = \frac{1}{A}\int^b_a xf(x) dx\bar y = \frac{1}{A}\int^b_a \frac{1}{2}(f(x))^2 dx
Where A is the area of the region containing the centroid.

The Attempt at a Solution



First thing I did was find the intersection of the curves x^3 = 10-x \Rightarrow x = 2 \Rightarrow P(2,8)
Then I put things in terms of y to integrate to find the area A of the region.y = x^3 \Rightarrow x = \sqrt[3] yx + y = 10 \Rightarrow x = 10 - yA = \int^8_0 ((10-y)-(\sqrt[3] y)) dy = 36
This is completely wrong. If you look at a graph of x+y= 10 and y= x^3, then you will see that, for each y, x ranges from 0 on the left to
1)y^{1/3} for y between 0 and 8 and
2) 10 - y for y between 8 and 10.
The area is given by
\int_{y= 0}^8 y^{1/3}dy+ \int_{y= 8}^{10} (10- y) dy.

Much simpler, and what most people would do, is to integrate with respect to x. For each x, between 0 and 2, y ranges from x^3 to 10- x so the area would be
\int_{x=0}^2(10- x- x^3) dx

So \bar x = \frac{1}{A}\int^b_a yf(y) dy = \frac{1}{36}\int^8_0 y((10-y)-(\sqrt[3] y))dy = \frac{496}{189} \approx 2.63\bar y = \frac{1}{A}\int^b_a \frac{1}{2}(f(y))^2 dy = \frac{1}{36}\int^8_0 \frac{1}{2}((10-y)^2-(\sqrt[3] y)^2)dy = \frac{584}{135} \approx 4.33
So the centroid is at \left(\frac{496}{189},\frac{584}{135}\right)
What I'm getting here isn't correct. Thanks for commenting!
 
Thank you for responding, HallsofIvy!

I think I'm still confused. I thought this was the region I needed to find the centroid of:

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Which has an area A = \int^2_0 x^3 dx + \int^{10}_2 (10-x) dx = 36
 
Oh, blast! I misead "y= 0" as "x= 0".
 
I had another look and figured it out. I guess when I did this in terms of y my x and y coordinates got flipped. The values of the integral are correct, but the coordinates are backwards, so the centroid is at\left(\frac{584}{135},\frac{496}{189}\right)
 

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