Find Curl of B: Electric & Mag Fields in Plane Wave

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The discussion revolves around finding the curl of the magnetic field B in the context of a plane wave propagating in free space. The electric and magnetic fields are expressed in complex-exponential notation, and the problem involves applying the Ampère-Maxwell law.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the curl of B, with one noting confusion about why the result appears to be zero despite expectations. Questions arise regarding the differentiation of B with respect to x and y, considering the magnetic field's directional properties.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the nature of the curl operation, suggesting that the components of curl B should not be zero. There is an exploration of the relationship between the electric and magnetic fields, with acknowledgment of their orthogonal nature.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the implications of the magnetic field's direction and its impact on the curl calculation. There is an underlying assumption that the magnetic field is not solely in the z-direction, which is being questioned.

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Homework Statement



The electric and magnetic fields in a plane wave propagating in free-space in the z-direction can we represented by (in complex-exponential notation)

E(x, y, z, t) = E_0 e^i(kz−wt+d ) and B(x, y, z, t) = B_0e^i(kz−wt+d )

Starting with the Ampère-Maxwell law, ∇ x B =μ_0 ε_0 dE/dt , show that E_0 = −c(z×B0).

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I'm only having problems when I do curl B (differentiating E is no problem). I'm using the matrix method, but by just looking, it seems like it should be zero since B is in the z direction and there's no field in the x or y direction i.e

x_______y________z

d/dx___d/dy_____d/dz

0_______0____B_0e^i(kz−wt+d )

I should be getting something like ike^(...), but I'm not. Any insight would be helpful

Thanks
 
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While B is in the z direction only, the curl B will have components in the x and y directions and not the z direction. So you should review the curl definition again and see where you went astray.
 
The wave is propagating in the z-direction. The magnetic field doesn't point in the z-direction.
 
Sorry, what I meant was from doing the calculation, I found the answer to be zero. That's what I found confusing. It shouldn't be zero.

Am I assuming wrong that d/dx and d/dy of B will come out as 0 since it's differentiating constants as there are no x or y variables in the field?

Basically, this is what I got from doing curl B:

x_hat[d/dy e^(...) - d/dz (0)] -y_hat[d/dx e^(...) - d/dz(0)] + z_hat[0-0]
 
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vela said:
The wave is propagating in the z-direction. The magnetic field doesn't point in the z-direction.

Ahh, of course, they're supposed to be orthogonal. I was under the impression that the magnetic field was in the z direction.
 
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