Find distance for gravity to do only -4 J of work

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The discussion centers on calculating the distance over which gravity does -4 J of work. The equation used is W = F.d, where the force is derived from the gravitational component mg sin(30). There is confusion regarding the direction of the work done and the use of sin(30) in the calculations. Participants clarify that negative work implies movement opposite to the direction of the gravitational force. The final consensus suggests that the calculations are correct, assuming the force value is accurate, and emphasizes the importance of understanding the direction of forces in work calculations.
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Homework Statement


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find distance for gravity to do only -4 J of work


Homework Equations


[URL]http://buphy.bu.edu/~duffy/PY105/12m.GIF[/URL]
Wg = mgX

The Attempt at a Solution


Can anyone help me from the first stepp
 
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its urgenttt:(
 
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I know this is wrong because there's no way the answer can be this simple ...

W=F.d
-4 = mgsin30 * d
d = -4/20sin30
d = -.4

.4 to the left

is that even righttt?
 
There's no force of friction?
 
iRaid said:
There's no force of friction?

Even if there is, it won't matter since the question is asked only based on gravity.
 
How are you getting 20sin30?

In particular, the sin30...
 
You should use the concept of Work-Energy to solve this, since loss in energy is work.
 
P-Illiterate said:
I know this is wrong because there's no way the answer can be this simple ...

W=F.d
-4 = mgsin30 * d
d = -4/20sin30
d = -.4

.4 to the left

is that even righttt?
To the left? Not so simple...if the work done by a force is negative, what does that imply?
 
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PhanthomJay said:
To the left? Not so simple...if the work done by a force is negative, what does that imply?

so the mass is going to the opposite direction of force ...
 
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noleguy33 said:
How are you getting 20sin30?

In particular, the sin30...
the weight component that acting on the mass
 
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can someone help meee:((
 
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P-Illiterate said:
the weight component that acting on the mass

and why are you using sin?
 
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noleguy33 said:
and why are you using sin?
the component will be sin?? should it be?
 
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Hi P-Illiterate! :smile:

(just got up :zzz: …)
P-Illiterate said:
I know this is wrong because there's no way the answer can be this simple ...

W=F.d
-4 = mgsin30 * d
d = -4/20sin30
d = -.4

.4 to the left

is that even righttt?

Yes! (assuming the 20 is correct) :smile:

except it's to the right … gravity acts down (try it! :wink:), so https://www.physicsforums.com/library.php?do=view_item&itemid=75" is positive if you go down, negative if you go up!
 
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Thank you guys :D
I'll be back with another problem soon ... hahahah xD ^-^
 
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