Find eigenvalue for matrix B= {[3,4,12],[4,-12,3],[12,3,-4]}

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The discussion revolves around finding the eigenvalues of the matrix B = {[3,4,12],[4,-12,3],[12,3,-4]}. Participants are exploring the characteristic polynomial and its implications for determining eigenvalues.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss setting up the characteristic polynomial and calculating eigenvalues. There are attempts to verify the correctness of the eigenvalues obtained and questions about how to derive them from the characteristic polynomial.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the characteristic polynomial and the process of finding eigenvalues, while others are questioning the accuracy of their calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of the eigenvalues and the steps needed to find the corresponding eigenvectors.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the characteristic polynomial and the eigenvalues, with some participants noting discrepancies in their calculations. The discussion includes attempts to clarify the correct approach to finding eigenvalues and eigenvectors.

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Homework Statement



Find eigenvalue for matrix B= {[3,4,12],[4,-12,3],[12,3,-4]}

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I set up the charactersitic polynomial and got the equation:
Pa(x) = (x-3)(x+12)(x+4) = x3 + 132 - 144 + 144 = x3 + 132

So I have 3 eigenvalues: 0, 13, -13. Is this correct?
 
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Actually I forgot to calculate the determinants so I got:

Pa(x) = (x-3)(x+12)(x+4) + 2197 = x3 + 13x2 + 2053
 
Those are the correct eigenvalues (if it is conventional to include 0 in your class). It may be good to note multiplicity of eigenvalues.
 
From the characteristic polynomial x3 + 13x2 + 2053, how do I get the correct eigenvalues?
 
LosTacos said:

Homework Statement



Find eigenvalue for matrix B= {[3,4,12],[4,-12,3],[12,3,-4]}

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I set up the charactersitic polynomial and got the equation:
Pa(x) = (x-3)(x+12)(x+4) = x3 + 132 - 144 + 144 = x3 + 132

So I have 3 eigenvalues: 0, 13, -13. Is this correct?
Two of them are correct, but 0 is not an eigenvalue. It should be -13 (a repeated eigenvalue).

LosTacos said:
From the characteristic polynomial x3 + 13x2 + 2053, how do I get the correct eigenvalues?
You can't, since this isn't the correct characteristic polynomial. The eigenvalues are the roots of the characteristic polynomial.
 
Okay I understand. So my eigenvalues are 13 and -13. If I was asked to find the basis for both of these, how do I go about doing that. I tried to solve the equation [13I2 - A I 0] however if ran into a wall. I row reduced it to get the matrix = {[2, 2/5, 6/5], [0,1,3], [0,0,1]}. But I wasnt sure where to go from there
 
LosTacos said:
Okay I understand. So my eigenvalues are 13 and -13. If I was asked to find the basis for both of these, how do I go about doing that. I tried to solve the equation [13I2 - A I 0]
You should be solving the matrix equation (13I3 - A)x = 0, or equivalently, (A - 13I)x = 0.
This would be the work to find the eigenvector for λ = 13.
LosTacos said:
however if ran into a wall. I row reduced it to get the matrix = {[2, 2/5, 6/5], [0,1,3], [0,0,1]}.
This is incorrect. Show me the matrix you started with, and a step or two of your work.
LosTacos said:
But I wasnt sure where to go from there
 
(A - 13I)x = 0:

{[10, 4, 12, 0],[4, 1, 3, 0],[12, 3, 17]} = {[1, 2/5, 6/5],[4, 1, 3, 0],[12, 3, 17, 0]} = {[1, 2/5, 6/5, 0], [0, -3/5, -9/5, 0],[0, -9/5, 13/5, 0]} = {[1, 2/5, 6/5, 0],[0, 1, 3, 0], [0, 0, 8, 0]}
 
LosTacos said:
(A - 13I)x = 0:

{[10, 4, 12, 0],[4, 1, 3, 0],[12, 3, 17]}
You started off with an incorrect matrix.

Here is A:
$$ \begin{bmatrix} 3 & 4 & 12\\ 4 & -12 & 3 \\ 12 & 3 &-4 \end{bmatrix}$$
To get A - 13I, subtract 13 from the entries on the main diagonal.
LosTacos said:
= {[1, 2/5, 6/5],[4, 1, 3, 0],[12, 3, 17, 0]} = {[1, 2/5, 6/5, 0], [0, -3/5, -9/5, 0],[0, -9/5, 13/5, 0]} = {[1, 2/5, 6/5, 0],[0, 1, 3, 0], [0, 0, 8, 0]}
 

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