Tangent Lines to an Ellipse Passing Through an Outside Point

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The discussion focuses on finding the equations of the tangent lines to the ellipse defined by the equation x² + 4y² = 36 that pass through the point (12, 3). The user successfully derived one tangent line, y = 3, but encountered issues with the second line, initially concluding it to be y = 1/2x - 3. The correct approach involves setting the derived slope equal to the slope of the line through (12, 3) and solving the resulting equations to find the correct values for x and y. The user was advised to substitute back into the ellipse equation to find both tangent lines accurately.

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Homework Statement


Find equations of both the tangent lines to the ellipse
x2 + 4y2 = 36
that pass through the point (12, 3).


Homework Equations


The equation of an ellipse is x2/a2 + y2/b2 = 1.
I converted the given equation to
x2/36 + y2/9 = 1 by dividing each value by 36.


The Attempt at a Solution


My online homework website is telling me I'm half right (I found the equation of ONE of the tangent lines to the ellipse passing through (12,3)). Here's what I have:

I took the derivative of the equation of the ellipse and got y' = -x/4y.
I set this value equal to the slope of a line passing through the point (12,3), (y-3)/(x-12). I then solved for x2 and y2 to find

x2=-4y2 + 12y + 12x
y2=-x2/4 + 3x + 3y

I then substituted these equations, one at a time, for the values of x2 and y2 in the original equation of the ellipse and solved for the unknown value. I think I took an unnecessary step doing that, but I need the practice! I found that

x=0
y=±3

I then determined the slopes of the lines passing through (0,3)-->(12,3) and (0,-3)-->(12,3). Clearly, the line running from (0,3)-->(12,3) has a slope of 0, and the equation of the line is y=3. This is the part that I got correct.
The slope of the line running through (0,-3)-->(12,3) I found to be 1/2. However, my homework website is telling me the equation y=1/2x-3 is incorrect.

Any assistance you can give me would be very appreciated! Honestly, we haven't gone over ANY problems like this in class, so the fact I'm even half right has been enormously satisfying. But I'd like to know what I'm doing wrong... I have a feeling I probably did something stupid, like dropped a negative sign somewhere. There are only 6 questions on this section's homework, so as it is I have an 83.3% and can't make an A unless I get this last piece of the last question correct. So frustrating!

Thanks in advance!
 
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horacescope said:

Homework Statement


Find equations of both the tangent lines to the ellipse
x2 + 4y2 = 36
that pass through the point (12, 3).

Homework Equations


The equation of an ellipse is x2/a2 + y2/b2 = 1.
I converted the given equation to
x2/36 + y2/9 = 1 by dividing each value by 36.

The Attempt at a Solution


My online homework website is telling me I'm half right (I found the equation of ONE of the tangent lines to the ellipse passing through (12,3)). Here's what I have:

I took the derivative of the equation of the ellipse and got y' = -x/4y.
I set this value equal to the slope of a line passing through the point (12,3), (y-3)/(x-12). I then solved for x2 and y2 to find

x2=-4y2 + 12y + 12x
y2=-x2/4 + 3x + 3y

I then substituted these equations, one at a time, for the values of x2 and y2 in the original equation of the ellipse and solved for the unknown value. I think I took an unnecessary step doing that, but I need the practice! I found that

x=0
y=±3

I then determined the slopes of the lines passing through (0,3)-->(12,3) and (0,-3)-->(12,3). Clearly, the line running from (0,3)-->(12,3) has a slope of 0, and the equation of the line is y=3. This is the part that I got correct.
The slope of the line running through (0,-3)-->(12,3) I found to be 1/2. However, my homework website is telling me the equation y=1/2x-3 is incorrect.

Any assistance you can give me would be very appreciated! Honestly, we haven't gone over ANY problems like this in class, so the fact I'm even half right has been enormously satisfying. But I'd like to know what I'm doing wrong... I have a feeling I probably did something stupid, like dropped a negative sign somewhere. There are only 6 questions on this section's homework, so as it is I have an 83.3% and can't make an A unless I get this last piece of the last question correct. So frustrating!

Thanks in advance!

Homework Statement


Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


If you got x^2=-4y^2 + 12y + 12x from your slope relation, then that tells you x^2+4y^2=12y+12x. x^2+4y^2=36. So 36=12y+12x. Solve that for y and substitute back into the ellipse equation. You should get two values of x that satisfy it. Not just x=0.
 
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Thanks! Of course it was right in front of me!
 

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