Find h in the problem involving a stone thrown upwards

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a stone thrown upwards, specifically focusing on finding the height (h) using different sign conventions and equations of motion. The subject area includes kinematics and the application of equations related to projectile motion.

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  • Participants explore different sign conventions for the motion of the stone, with some using upwards as positive and others using downwards as positive. There is discussion about the correctness of the approaches taken by the original poster and the referenced tutor, as well as the implications of rounding answers for significant figures.

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The discussion is active with participants sharing their interpretations and approaches. Some participants note that both the original poster and the tutor arrived at the same answer despite using different conventions. There is an acknowledgment of the clarity in the steps provided for part (b) of the problem, and additional related problems are introduced for further exploration.

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There is mention of a downloaded PDF that contains tutor references, which may influence the understanding of the problem setup. Participants also express the need to clarify assumptions regarding the sign conventions used in their calculations.

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Was the approach used by the referenced tutor correct?

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In my understanding, the set up equation ought to be,
##s=-h, u=16## as the stone is being thrown upwards and ##g=-9.8##
giving me,

##-h = 64 - \dfrac{1}{2}×9.8 ×16##

##-h=-14.4##m

##h=14.4##m , or it does not really matter.
 
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Your tutor used a sign convention where downwards is positive.
You used a sign convention where upwards is positive.
You both solved the problem correctly and got the same answer.
One approach isn't better than the other IMO.

Edit: technically it would be better to round the final answer to 2 significant figures, for consistency with the given data.
 
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Steve4Physics said:
Your tutor used a sign convention where downwards is positive.
You used a sign convention where upwards is positive.
You both solved the problem correctly and got the same answer.
One approach isn't better than the other IMO.

Edit: technically it would be better to round the final answer to 2 significant figures, for consistency with the given data.
Not my tutor though ... the term 'tutor' was in reference to the attached downloaded pdf. Cheers though.
 
For part (b) this is clear,

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but i can also use,

##v=u + at##

##v= 0 + 9.8(4-1.63265) = 23.2## m/s

I made use of ##\dfrac{ds}{dt}##, just incase the question on ##1.63## comes up.

cheers.
 
chwala said:
For part (b) this is clear,

View attachment 352465

but i can also use,

##v=u + at##

##v= 0 + 9.8(4-1.63265) = 23.2## m/s
Or even:
##v = u + at = 16 + (-9.8) \times 4 =-23.2## m/s
Speed = |v| = 23.2 m/s
 
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This is a related problem, allow me to post it here rather than start a new post;

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The steps are clear;

also we could solve it by simultaneous equation, that is by use of velocity and distance formula (suvat), we shall have the simultaneous,

##34=u+10a##

##480=20u+100a##

##u=14## m/s.

cheers, great day.
 

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