Height of tower given objects dropped from top at same time?

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The problem involves two stones being dropped from the top of a tower, with one stone thrown upward and the other dropped two seconds later. The objective is to find the height of the tower given that both stones strike the ground simultaneously.

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  • The original poster attempts two different methods to calculate the height of the tower, leading to different results. They express confusion about the impact of the upward velocity on the calculations and question the correctness of their methods.

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Participants are exploring the calculations presented by the original poster, with one participant noting a potential error in the equations used. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the problem, and some participants suggest that mistakes can occur in simpler calculations despite understanding more complex concepts.

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The original poster is grappling with the implications of the initial upward velocity and the timing of the stone drops, which may affect their calculations. There is also a mention of confusion regarding the results obtained from different methods.

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Homework Statement


A stone is thrown vertically upward from the top of the tower with a velocity of 15m/s. Two seconds later a second stone is dropped from the top of the tower.if both the stone strike the ground simultaneously find the height of the towerV1i=15m/s
V2i=0m/s
t=2s
h=?

Homework Equations


Xf=Xi+0.5at^2
Vf=vi+at

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I used two methods and got different answers which is confusing me

METHOD 1:
Xf1 = 15t-4.9t^2
Xf2 = -4.9(t-2)^2
Xf2 = -4.9t^2 +16.9t -16.9

Xf2=Xf1
15t -4.9t^2 = -4.9t^2 +16.9t -16.9
-1.9t = -16.9
t= 8.89s
h=253.90 m

METHOD 2:
Xf1= 15(2) -4.9(2)^2
Xf1 = 10.4m
Vf= Vi + at
Vf= 15 -9.8(2)
Vf = -4.6m/s
Xf1= 10.4 - 4.6t -4.9t^2
Xf2 = -4.9t^2

Xf1=Xf2
10.4 -4.6t -4.6t^2 = -4.9t^2
10.4=4.6t
t = 2.26s
h= 25.03m

Which solution is right?Why am I getting different answers? Is it because the 15m/s velocity is upwards and will reach maximum height? I am really confused
 
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Ab17 said:
Xf2 = -4.9(t-2)^2
Xf2 = -4.9t^2 +16.9t -16.9

4.9 * 4 = 19.6 not 16.9
 
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