Find Height of Elliptical Arch Spanning 118ft & 8ft High

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The problem involves finding the height of a semielliptical arch bridge with a given span of 118 feet and a specified height of 8 feet at a distance of 25 feet from the center. Participants are discussing the implications of the provided dimensions and how they relate to the equation of an ellipse.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to apply the equation of an ellipse to find the height at the center, questioning how the given dimensions relate to the semi-major and semi-minor axes. There is discussion about the coordinates derived from the height at 25 feet from the center and how to incorporate the span into the equation.

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Some participants have offered guidance on how to set up the equation with the coordinates and the semi-major axis. There is recognition of the need to clarify the use of the height and the span in the context of the ellipse equation. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating potential confusion regarding the relationship between the height at a specific point and the overall dimensions of the arch. There is also a mention of a possible typo in the application of the ellipse equation.

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Homework Statement



A bridge is built in the shape of a semielliptical arch. It has a span of 118 feet. The height of the arch 25 feet from the center is to be 8 feet. Find the height of the arch at its center?

Homework Equations



not sure if the 25 feet from the center is the focal axis or not?

The Attempt at a Solution



with the given info i know that i have the variable a in the equation of an ellipse:

(x^2/a^2) + (y^2/b^2) = 1 (a>b)

and i know that i am looking for the minor axis or semiminor axis to be exact. The Foci:

(+ or - c,0) where c^2 = a^2 - b^2 I have, a, which is the span 118/2 = 59 for the semimajor axis. i believe i have, c, which is 25, but when i plug them in and solve for, b, i do not get the right answer. I believe i may need to do something with the 8 feet, but i have not seen it. If anyone could help point me in the right direction, I would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
 
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I think the statement "The height of the arch 25 feet from the center is to be 8 feet" means that at x=\pm{25}, y=8 giving the coordinates (\pm{25},8). So try putting those coodinates into the equation {\frac{x^2}{25^2}}+{\frac{y^2}{b^2}}=1 and solve for b^2.
 
Deadleg said:
I think the statement "The height of the arch 25 feet from the center is to be 8 feet" means that at x=\pm{25}, y=8 giving the coordinates (\pm{25},8). So try putting those coodinates into the equation {\frac{x^2}{25^2}}+{\frac{y^2}{b^2}}=1 and solve for b^2.
Was that a typo? We are told that the span is 118 feet and you haven't used that. Put x= 25, y= 8 into
\frac{x^2}{118^2}+ \frac{y^2}{b^2}= 1[/itex]<br /> and solve for b.
 
Oh yeah whoops :S But span=2a so a=59, so I believe the equation is \frac{x^2}{59^2}+ \frac{y^2}{b^2}= 1.
 
yes, thank you for your quick replies, when i put the values in for x,y and a, (59) I get:

(118 * sqr root(714)) / 357 ---> which breaks into a cool +/- 8.83. which what do you

know, is exactly the right answer :) Thanks again for the help with the problem, I was thinking I had to use the 8 somewhere, once again thanks for all your help, and steering me in a right direction.
 

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