Find Hydrophilic Material to Absorb Non-Water Liquid

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The discussion centers around the search for a hydrophilic material that can absorb a liquid lighter than water without absorbing water itself. Participants explore the feasibility of such materials, the properties required for absorption, and potential examples of absorbent materials.

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  • One participant questions the possibility of finding a material that is both hydrophilic and selective enough to absorb a liquid lighter than water while not absorbing water.
  • Another participant suggests that the liquid in question might be hydrophilic, contrasting with oils that do not mix with water.
  • A participant mentions the use of PigMats, which are known to absorb fuels and oils but not water, as a potential solution.
  • Concerns are raised about the hydrophobic nature of most fuels and oils, with skepticism about whether PigMats could absorb alcohol.
  • Further clarification is sought regarding the properties of PigMats, which are described as polypropylene-fiber bags containing hydrophobic fillers.
  • Another participant shares an anecdote about using similar absorbent materials on fishing boats, referred to as 'diapers' or 'oil rags', which absorb oil and fuel but not water.

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Participants express skepticism about the feasibility of the original request, with no consensus on a specific material or liquid that meets all criteria. Multiple competing views on the properties and examples of absorbent materials remain present.

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Participants highlight the limitations of physical and chemical selectivity in absorption processes, indicating that the requirements set forth may not align with typical material properties.

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hello

does anyone here know of a random absorbant material that can absorb a rondom liquid that is LIGHTER than water and preferbaly hydrophilic but DOES NOT absorb water?

(what kind of material and fluid)

thanks in advance
 
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Sounds to me like this is virtually impossible. You normally have two parameters with which to tune absorption/adsorption processes - physical selectivity and chemical selectivity.

Physical selectivity usually involves choosing/making pore sizes in relation to the size of the molecule being absorbed. You've ruled that out because you want to adsorb any general liquid lighter than water.

Chemical selectivity is also ruled out, because the easiest way to not absorb water is if the material is hydrophobic (eg: oil-treated fibrous absorbents). But you want something that it hydrophilic.
 
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Maybe he means that the liquid is hydrophilic, unlike oil, which does not mix with water?
 
theCandyman said:
Maybe he means that the liquid is hydrophilic, unlike oil, which does not mix with water?
Hmmm, yes that makes sense. But I draw a blank on that count too.
 
I'm not a chemist, but PigMats are an item we use all the time in test cells. They absorb fuels, oils, etc... but no water. Just a thought.
 
Fred, most fuels and oils (in fact, most every single one I know) is hydrophobic. I'd be really surprised if your pig mat absorbed alcohol.
 
Gokul43201 said:
Fred, most fuels and oils (in fact, most every single one I know) is hydrophobic. I'd be really surprised if your pig mat absorbed alcohol.
I think I'll try a little test on Tuesday. I'll keep you updated.
 
Gokul43201 said:
Sounds to me like this is virtually impossible. You normally have two parameters with which to tune absorption/adsorption processes - physical selectivity and chemical selectivity.

Physical selectivity usually involves choosing/making pore sizes in relation to the size of the molecule being absorbed. You've ruled that out because you want to adsorb any general liquid lighter than water.

Chemical selectivity is also ruled out, because the easiest way to not absorb water is if the material is hydrophobic (eg: oil-treated fibrous absorbents). But you want something that it hydrophilic.


I think you're getting the wrong id. It's not like I'm trying to absorb next to ALL liquids that are lighter than water etc. I just want 1 liquid that works in the "configuration" of my first post (so if liquid A works and I need absorbant material D to let it do what I wan't it to do; what liquid, what material? just a random configuration that works like that)

FredGarvin said:
'm not a chemist, but PigMats are an item we use all the time in test cells. They absorb fuels, oils, etc... but no water. Just a thought.

Could you tell me some more about those PigMats?

By the way, it's not completely necessary for the fluid to be water. Any other fluid that behaves like mentioned above would work to.
 
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Metiz said:
Could you tell me some more about those PigMats?
A Pig(R)Mat is generally a polypropylene-fiber bag containing a hydrophobic filler (typically cellulose) and often, a fire retardant.
 
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Hey Fred, so did you take your PigMat to the bar ?
 
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thermally conductive electrically ninconductive material

Hi friends
Is there any material which is electrically non-conductive but thermally highly conductive.
 
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FredGarvin said:
I'm not a chemist, but PigMats are an item we use all the time in test cells. They absorb fuels, oils, etc... but no water. Just a thought.

on the fishing boats, we use what we call 'diapers' or 'oil rags'. They look kind of like big, floppy wafers, and they absorb oil and fuel, but not water.

These look right:

http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/1095085_lg.gif
 
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