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The discussion revolves around finding integral values of 'a' in the quadratic equation (x + a)(x + 1991) + 1 = 0 that yield integral roots. Participants are exploring the implications of the discriminant and the conditions for the roots to be integers.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss simplifying the quadratic equation and applying the discriminant condition. Some question the correctness of the original poster's approach and suggest alternative interpretations regarding the number of integral values of 'a'.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing different perspectives on the problem. Some suggest that the original poster's reasoning may not fully address the requirements for integral roots, while others assert that there are only two valid integral values for 'a'. There is no explicit consensus on the correct interpretation of the conditions needed for the roots.

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Participants note that the condition derived from the discriminant must be further examined, particularly whether it should equate to the square of an integer. There is also mention of the assumption that both 'a' and 'x' are integers, which influences the discussion.

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Homework Statement



The number of integral values of 'a' for which the quadratic equation (x + a) (x + 1991) + 1 = 0
has integral roots are:

Homework Equations



D = b² - 4ac

The Attempt at a Solution



What I did was simplify the given equation and I got:

x² + (1991 + a)x + (1991a + 1) = 0

Now: (1991+a)² > 4(1991a + 1)

What do I do after this: Please help, I am not even sure that I am on the correct path.
 
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addzy94 said:

Homework Statement



The number of integral values of 'a' for which the quadratic equation (x + a) (x + 1991) + 1 = 0
has integral roots are:

Homework Equations



D = b² - 4ac

The Attempt at a Solution



What I did was simplify the given equation and I got:

x² + (1991 + a)x + (1991a + 1) = 0

Now: (1991+a)² > 4(1991a + 1)

What do I do after this: Please help, I am not even sure that I am on the correct path.

Assume that ##b## and ##c## are the integer roots. Then,
$$(x+a)(x+1991)+1=(x+b)(x+c)$$
Substitute ##x=-b##, you should be able to take it from here.
 
I don't know how that would work. It's alright I got the answer. As both a and x are integers

(x + a)(x+1991) = -1

Thus (x + a) = 1 or -1

(x+1991) = -1 or 1

So we get two integral values for a. I would also like to know how to do it your way.
 
I think you are misunderstanding the question. Isn't it obvious that there will be an infinite number of such a?

Your "(1991+a)² > 4(1991a + 1)" is simply the condition that the roots be real numbers.
 
HallsofIvy said:
I think you are misunderstanding the question. Isn't it obvious that there will be an infinite number of such a?

There are indeed only two integer values of a which ensure that x is an integer, but the OP's argument in post #3 doesn't actually prove that.


Your "(1991+a)² > 4(1991a + 1)" is simply the condition that the roots be real numbers.

Instead the condition the OP needs is that (1991 + a)^2 - 4(1991 a + 1) must be the square of an integer.
 
pasmith said:
There are indeed only two integer values of a which ensure that x is an integer, but the OP's argument in post #3 doesn't actually prove that.

There can only be two integers whose multiplication can result in -1. That is 1 and -1.

In my previous post I substitute 1 and minus -1 alternatively for the two integer values (x+a) and (x+1991) which are integer values themselves, thus proving it.
 

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