Find Limit of an in Series with a0,a1 & n

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The discussion revolves around a sequence defined by the recurrence relation \( a_n = \frac{(a_{n-1} + a_{n-2})}{2} \), with initial values \( a_0 \) and \( a_1 \). Participants are tasked with expressing \( a_n \) in terms of \( a_0 \), \( a_1 \), and \( n \), and finding the limit of \( a_n \) as \( n \) approaches infinity.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss expressing terms of the sequence in relation to the initial values, with some attempting to derive a general formula for \( a_n \). There are considerations of the series formed by the differences \( a_n - a_{n-1} \) and the implications of summing these differences. Questions arise regarding the nature of the series and the behavior of terms as \( n \) increases, particularly in relation to geometric series.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the series and its properties, with some participants suggesting that the right side of the equation resembles a geometric series. Others express confusion about the alternating signs in the series and seek clarification on how to handle them. The discussion remains open, with various interpretations and approaches being considered.

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Participants note the requirement to express \( a_n \) solely in terms of \( a_0 \) and \( a_1 \), which adds a layer of complexity to their attempts. There is also mention of the need to simplify the series to find the limit, indicating that the problem may involve deeper mathematical concepts.

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Homework Statement


If we have a number sequence such that: a0, a1 are given, and every other element is given as ##a_n=\frac{(a_{n-1} + a_{n-2})}{2} then express an in terms of a0, a1 and n , and fin the limit of an

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If i try to express a3 in terms of a1 and a0 and then a4 in terms of a3 and a2 (using the a2 i previously expressed in terms of a1 and a0 ) and going so on with next elements up to an element, that isn't actually a good idea, since i am supposed to express it only using a1 and a0, no an-1 and stuff. So if i try to find a2 - a1, then a3 - a2 all the way to the an - an-1 i would have something like this:

## a_2 - a_1= - \frac{a_1 - a_0}{2} \\ a_3 - a_2= \frac{a_1 - a_0}{2^2} \\ \vdots \\ a_n - a_{n-1} = (-1)^{n-1} \frac{a_1 - a_0}{2^{n-1}} ##

If i sum up all of these, i actually have:
## a_n - a_1 = -\frac{a_1 - a_0}{2} + \frac{a_1 - a_0}{2^2} - \frac{a_1 - a_0}{2^3} + \cdots +(-1)^{n-1} \frac{a_1 - a_0}{2^{n-1}} ##

Which is what i need to have, i should just "move" a_1 to the RHS but i don't know how to simplify that series so that i could find a limit of it.
 
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The "a_1" on the left is not really important. What is important is that the right side is a geometric series, \sum_{i=0}^n ar^i with a= a_1- a_0 and common factor -\frac{1}{2}. After you have taken that sum, then add a_1 to both sides.
 
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cdummie said:
If i try to express a3 in terms of a1 and a0 and then...
But you want it in terms of a1 and a0 , not a2 etc.
So:
$$a_0, \ a_1, \ {a_0 + a_1 \over 2}, \ { a_1 + {a_0 + a_1 \over 2} \over 2} , \ {{a_0 + a_1 \over 2} + \ { a_1 + {a_0 + a_1 \over 2} \over 2} \over 2 }. \ ... $$and that you can easily generalize, which is exactly what is asked from you.

:smile: I see Ivy has already spoiled the thing for you. Pity. :frown:
 
HallsofIvy said:
The "a_1" on the left is not really important. What is important is that the right side is a geometric series, \sum_{i=0}^n ar^i with a= a_1- a_0 and common factor -\frac{1}{2}. After you have taken that sum, then add a_1 to both sides.

Well, i think i understand the idea, but the fact that sings are switching is confusing me, i mean, when i have something like this: ## \sum\limits_{k=1}^n \frac{1}{2k}## (which is almost exactly the same as in this case, except for the (-1)k part) then it's simple:
##
\sum\limits_{k=1}^{n-1} \frac{1}{2k} = \frac{1-\frac{1}{2^n}}{1-\frac{1}{2}}## So, what can i do about that ##(-1)^k## ?
 
Do you know matrix diagonalization?
 
micromass said:
Do you know matrix diagonalization?
Matrix diagonalization? I know that if i have upper or lower triangular matrix that determinant of such matrix is product of elements on the diagonal, if that's what you meant.
 
cdummie said:

Homework Statement


If we have a number sequence such that: a0, a1 are given, and every other element is given as ##a_n=\frac{(a_{n-1} + a_{n-2})}{2} then express an in terms of a0, a1 and n , and fin the limit of an

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


If i try to express a3 in terms of a1 and a0 and then a4 in terms of a3 and a2 (using the a2 i previously expressed in terms of a1 and a0 ) and going so on with next elements up to an element, that isn't actually a good idea, since i am supposed to express it only using a1 and a0, no an-1 and stuff. So if i try to find a2 - a1, then a3 - a2 all the way to the an - an-1 i would have something like this:

## a_2 - a_1= - \frac{a_1 - a_0}{2} \\ a_3 - a_2= \frac{a_1 - a_0}{2^2} \\ \vdots \\ a_n - a_{n-1} = (-1)^{n-1} \frac{a_1 - a_0}{2^{n-1}} ##

If i sum up all of these, i actually have:
## a_n - a_1 = -\frac{a_1 - a_0}{2} + \frac{a_1 - a_0}{2^2} - \frac{a_1 - a_0}{2^3} + \cdots +(-1)^{n-1} \frac{a_1 - a_0}{2^{n-1}} ##

Which is what i need to have, i should just "move" a_1 to the RHS but i don't know how to simplify that series so that i could find a limit of it.

The solution of the recurrence can be obtained using a standard method for such a "constant coefficient" problem. If we assume a solution of the form ##a_n = c r^n## (with constant ##c##), then the recursion ##a_{n+2} = (a_{n+1} + a_n)/2## yields ##r^n \,r^2 = r^n \,(1+r)/2 ##, hence ##r^2 = (1+r)/2## and so ##r = 1,-1/2##. That implies ##a_n = A 1^n + B(-1/2)^n = A + B\,(-1/2)^n##. Find ##A## and ##B## by using the given conditions at ##n = 0## and ##n = 1##.

Note: you can easily check that for any constants ##A,B## the form ##a_n = A + B \,(-1/2)^n## satisfies the recursion.
 

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