Find loop radius and current via magnetic field?

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To find the loop radius and current from the given magnetic field values, the Biot-Savart law is essential for deriving the magnetic field expression along the loop's axis. The magnetic field at the center and on the axis must be analyzed using the provided equations, specifically integrating the Biot-Savart law. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding the problem statement and identifying the coordinates corresponding to the magnetic field measurements. Participants express confusion about the integration process and how to relate the given values to the equations. A clear understanding of the derivation and the physical meaning of the parameters is crucial for solving the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement


A single-turn wire loop produces a magnetic field of 41.2 μT at its center, and 5.15 nT on its axis, at 20.0 cm from the loop center.

Find loop raidus and current.

Homework Equations


F = qv x B

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to use the above equation, but could not figure out how to use it to find a radius r. What must be done in order to get an equation with such variables? For current I believe F = IL x B should work, but I don't know if radius r is necessary.
 

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Sounds like you need to use Biot-Savart to find a general expression for the B-field on the loop axis at distance z from the center, then solve a system of 2 equations and two unknowns.
 
kuruman said:
Sounds like you need to use Biot-Savart to find a general expression for the B-field on the loop axis at distance z from the center, then solve a system of 2 equations and two unknowns.
So I need to use the equation dB = (μ0IdL × Ir)/(4πr2) and solve for r?
 
jlmccart03 said:
So I need to use the equation dB = (μ0IdL × Ir)/(4πr2) and solve for r?
Yes, but you need to integrate first. Read and understand the derivation for ##B_z## here.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/curloo.html
Then use this expression for the two values of ##z## that are given to you. You need to solve for both the current and the radius.
 
kuruman said:
Yes, but you need to integrate first. Read and understand the derivation for ##B_z## here.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/curloo.html
Then use this expression for the two values of ##z## that are given to you. You need to solve for both the current and the radius.
So what z value do I plug in? Also what would be my I? I am confused on how to use this equation. I guess a better question to ask is what does each value correspond to? I am looking at the derivation and am simply confused because this creates a trianlge as far as the diagram shows, but how does this relate to my problem?
 
Forget the derivation and plugging in for the moment. Read the statement of the problem carefully. This loop produces a magnetic field everywhere in space around it. Can you explain to me what you think the given numbers represent? (Fill in the blanks)
Using the coordinate axes in the hyperphysics derivation,
(a) 41.2 μT is the magnetic field at point x = ____, y = ____ , z = ____
(b) 5.15 nT is the magnetic field at point x = ____, y = ____ , z = ____
(c) 20.0 cm is the distance from point x = ____, y = ____ , z = ____ to point x = ____, y = ____ , z = ____.
 
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