Find Magnetic Field of an Elliptical Solenoid | Biot-Savart Law

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The original poster attempts to find an expression for the magnetic field of an elliptical solenoid using the Biot-Savart law. They mention having a physical solenoid available for reference and express uncertainty about how to begin the problem, particularly due to their limited experience with the Biot-Savart law from their introductory course.

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  • Some participants suggest starting with elliptical coordinates to set up the Biot-Savart law. Others express apprehension about the complexity of elliptical cylindrical coordinates and share findings related to the magnetic field of an elliptical loop of current, including specific calculations and values.

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Participants are exploring different approaches to the problem, with some providing mathematical insights and others questioning the assumptions regarding the magnetic field's dependence on the solenoid's shape. There is no explicit consensus, but several lines of reasoning are being examined.

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The original poster is working under constraints related to their current knowledge level and the expectations set by a grad student. They are also considering the number of turns in the solenoid as a factor in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


I have to find an expression for the magnetic field of an elliptical solenoid. This is an actual solenoid sitting on the desk next to me, but even an infinite/very long solenoid approximation would be a wonderful start.

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Biot-Savart law

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Therein lies the problem... I've not the slightest clue where to start. I just started working in a lab at my school and the grad student here left me this problem while he's away on vacation. I've only seen Biot-Savart from my Intro to Electromagnetism class, so I'm not to savvy with it yet. A poke in the right direction would be greatly appreciated!
 
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I tried looking up elliptical cylindrical coordinates and when I saw all of the sinh's and cosh's I got kinda scared... but I did come across something else. I found that for an elliptical loop of current, the magnetic field is:

u[0] = 4*pi*10^(-7)
I = current
a = semi-major axis
b = semi-minor axis
k = sqrt(1-a^2/b^2)

B = (u[0]*I)/(pi*a)*E(k), where E(k) is a complete elliptical integral of the second kind.

E(k) = int( sqrt(1-k^2*sin^2(theta)), theta = 0..pi/2).

Given the specs that I have, k=0.826, I found an integral table (CRC standard mathematical tables, 18th edition) and found that E(k) = 1.372.

Plugging in my other numbers (this is assuming 1 amp of current), I got the field to be:

B = 1.065 gauss.

This seems to be somewhat correct since the current for a circular loop of about the same size is pretty small too. Now I need to find a way to incorporate the number of turns (in this case, 1010 turns) into my equation so that I can get an idea of how strong the elliptical solenoid will be. Any ideas?
 
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I'm fairly sure that the magnetic field inside an ideal (infinite) solenoid is independent of the shape of its cross section. What matters are the cross-sectional area and the sheet current density.
 

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