Find Mass of Box K for 25 Degree Angle in Pulley Assembly | Pulley Question Help

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The problem involves a pulley assembly with two boxes, where the mass of box L is given as 52 kg. The objective is to determine the mass of box K that will create a 25-degree angle in the system.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the forces acting on the boxes and the angles involved. There is an exploration of how to apply Newton's laws to find the tension in the cables and the corresponding mass of box K. Questions arise about the calculations needed to relate the tension forces to the weights of the boxes.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing insights about the effects of gravity and the components of tension. Some guidance has been offered regarding focusing on the vertical component of the tension to find the weight of box K, and there is a recognition of the need to convert weight to mass.

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There is a mention of the gravitational constant and the need to consider the effects of gravity on the weights of the boxes. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the calculations involved without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement



An assembly shown in the picture, GH , HK, HNL are three cables. the mass of box L is 52Kg,
a) determine the mass of box K in order to make angle theta as 25 degrees


Homework Equations


FX=0
FY=0



The Attempt at a Solution


right i started with
Fhn x cos(25) = Fhg x cos(0) as cos(o) is 1 i then wrote it out as
Fhn x cos(25) = Fhg
box L = 52Kg, i know HN = NL does the tension force NL= 52?
i know that when i get HN by looking at the forces acting on L & using Newtons 1st law to solve for NL i can calculate Fhg from the equation i started with. confused on how to get HN=NL thinks its 52.

then at joint H, the vert comp of HN must equal the tension in HK, per Newton 1st law in the y direction, and then i look at the forces acting on K to solve for its mass. i understand the theory I'm just confused about the calculations that need to be made, can anyone run through it with me please to find the mass of box K?
 

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The 52kg block weighs 52x9.81N...this is the tension force in the string HN.
If you look at point H can you see that the horizontal component of the tension = tension in string HG and the vertical component of the tension must be the weight of block K
 
oh yes i forgot about the effect of gravity on the 52Kg block.
ok i understand to a point about the mass of block k , so would the mass of block k be HN x (cos25+sin25) ? then divide by gravitational constant to get the Kg value ?
 
You only need to consider the vertical component of the tension (510Sin25) to find the weight of block K
 
oh yeah i see now why its only the vertical component, so just 510xsin25=215.5 that's all?
 
That is the WEIGHT...I think you have to find the mass (easy?)
 
yeah just divide by 9.81 i believe ?
 
that's it !
 
brilliant thanks for your help! :)
 

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