Find Physics Books for Intuitive Problem Solving

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The discussion revolves around finding physics textbooks that facilitate intuitive problem-solving, particularly in calculus-based general physics, with a focus on electricity and magnetism. Participants share their experiences with various texts and suggest alternatives that balance theoretical and conceptual understanding.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses dissatisfaction with Serway/Jewett's approach, finding it too conceptual and lacking in intuitive problem-solving support.
  • Another suggests Walter Lewin's lectures as a valuable resource, although they note a need for more content.
  • Some participants advocate for sticking with Serway, arguing that it is a worthwhile effort despite its challenges.
  • Contrasting views emerge, with some participants expressing strong dislike for Serway, describing it as overly simplistic or akin to high school material.
  • Kleppner and Kolenkow are recommended for mechanics, while Purcell is suggested for electricity and magnetism, though some caution that these texts may be too advanced for beginners.
  • Supplementing Serway with Schaum's books is proposed as a way to develop problem-solving skills and intuition.
  • Cutnell and Johnson are recommended for those struggling with Serway, with advice to focus on specific sections as needed.
  • Feynman's lectures are mentioned as a potential reference for those seeking a more explanatory and intuitive approach to physics.
  • Several participants note the difficulty of finding textbooks that provide intuitive insights and express a desire for more accessible explanations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the effectiveness of Serway/Jewett, with some advocating for its use while others strongly oppose it. There is no consensus on the best alternative texts, as suggestions vary widely and reflect differing preferences for teaching styles and content depth.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the challenge of mastering physics concepts without intuitive insights, indicating that many textbooks may not adequately address this need. There is also mention of varying levels of difficulty among recommended texts, which may not align with all learners' current understanding.

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I currently use Serway/Jewett's Physics for Scientists and Engineers, I find it too conceptual and definition-oriented as opposed to explanatory. Since this is such a widely used text, I may just be terrible at picking up physics, but my main beef with the book is that it makes it hard for me to see physics as intuitive. I find myself at a loss on how to approach problems in general because I've basically just memorized a few things here and there, and don't have a solid foundation/intuition that helps me set up a problem or at least enough confidence to throw some ideas about whatever physics scenario I'm given, a skill I think I should have by now.

So onto my actual question. Are there any other books you would recommend for calc-based general physics that have a good balance between theoretical and conceptual? Especially for electricity, magnetism, and related concepts? I've taken up to Calc II and am taking multi and diff eq now if that helps. Even problem solving or related math texts, if you feel they are good. I do have Klepner/Kolenkow's mechanics book, but I find that from Serway to this, it's taken a while for me to hack through the book. Any advice is much appreciated :)
 
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cragar said:
This isn't a book but walter lewins lectures on Mechanics and Electricity and magnetism are really good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0DD9KilmM&feature=relmfu

I've been trying to watch all his lectures and taking notes here and there. I think I need a little more content though, but thanks for the suggestion.
 
I would stick with Serway. It's really worth the effort and every intro to calc based physics is basically the same. I don't understand how you can find a book too much about concepts and then say that it's not intuitive enough.
 
I hate Serway with a passion. It feels like an advanced high school course. For a mechanics course, I'd highly recommend Kleppner and Kolenkow. For Electricity and Magnetism you cannot do better than Purcell.
 
Sounds like you need more practice solving problems - supplement Serway/Jewett with the appropriate Schaum books. By solving lots of different problems you should eventually be able to develop the intuition to deal with any physics scenario you are given - at least at the level of Serway/Jewett!
 
Kleppner & Kolenkow and Purcell might be quite advanced for someone just starting with calculus-based physics, and they are not the long-winded-with-full-of-explanation-and-intuitive-insight type either. If you like explanatory / intuitive approach, take Feymann's as a reference. Only as a reference, if you really like physics.
At introductory level, I would say it's a pain that not many textbooks have that intuitive insights that most of the time, you have to struggle to figure out yourself. Then if you want to check your understanding with rigorous mathematics, Kleppner & Kolenkow is a good choice.
 
I'd recommend Cutnell and Johnson if you are struggling with Serway. But get it out of the library and just read the sections you are having difficulty with. It's more of an introduction to the introduction tos.

You'll come to love Seway in time, nearly everyone does. Do read around though, sometimes you just need that "click" to happen for everything to make sense.

Electro-mag is one of those that's difficult to grasp from the beginning.
Grant and Phillips: Electromagnetism would be my favourite
 
ParticleGrl said:
I hate Serway with a passion. It feels like an advanced high school course. For a mechanics course, I'd highly recommend Kleppner and Kolenkow. For Electricity and Magnetism you cannot do better than Purcell.

Thanks, I'll check out Purcell then.


mal4mac said:
Sounds like you need more practice solving problems - supplement Serway/Jewett with the appropriate Schaum books. By solving lots of different problems you should eventually be able to develop the intuition to deal with any physics scenario you are given - at least at the level of Serway/Jewett!


I agree, that's part of it too. I have a Schaum book and I'm gradually working my way through their problems. Thanks!
 
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Smiles302 said:
I'd recommend Cutnell and Johnson if you are struggling with Serway. But get it out of the library and just read the sections you are having difficulty with. It's more of an introduction to the introduction tos.

You'll come to love Seway in time, nearly everyone does. Do read around though, sometimes you just need that "click" to happen for everything to make sense.

Electro-mag is one of those that's difficult to grasp from the beginning.
Grant and Phillips: Electromagnetism would be my favourite

Thanks, I'll check those out.

hikaru1221 said:
Kleppner & Kolenkow and Purcell might be quite advanced for someone just starting with calculus-based physics, and they are not the long-winded-with-full-of-explanation-and-intuitive-insight type either. If you like explanatory / intuitive approach, take Feymann's as a reference. Only as a reference, if you really like physics.
At introductory level, I would say it's a pain that not many textbooks have that intuitive insights that most of the time, you have to struggle to figure out yourself. Then if you want to check your understanding with rigorous mathematics, Kleppner & Kolenkow is a good choice.

I find that to be the problem too... it's necessary to hack the math and memorize definitions, I know, but I feel like at this point, Serway isn't giving me anything beyond that. I'm interested enough to want to have a solid understanding of what I'm learning since I want to take some upper div courses in physics as well. I've been interested in Feynman's lectures for a while now too, so I'll definitely check it out. Thanks.
 

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