Find polynoms, with as least as power possible

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The discussion revolves around finding polynomials A(x) and B(x) that satisfy the equation (x^4+2x^3+x+1)A(x) + (x^4+x^3-2x^2+2x-1)B(x) = x^3-2x with the least power possible. Participants suggest using trial and error with first-order and second-order polynomial forms for A and B, emphasizing that certain terms must cancel out. A solution is eventually proposed, identifying A(x) and B(x) as cubic polynomials, but participants express frustration over the complexity of the process and seek a simpler method. The conversation highlights the challenges of polynomial division and the need for systematic approaches to solving such equations. Ultimately, the discussion reflects a collaborative effort to tackle a complex algebraic problem.
  • #121
Physicsissuef said:
I tried only A(x)=P and B(x)=Q and it didn't work, because of

P(\alpha ax^n + \alpha b) + Q(\beta cx^n + \beta d)

so

\frac{\alpha}{0}=\frac{0}{\beta} and \frac{\beta}{0}=\frac{0}{d}

Exactly! :smile:
can you tell me please, or start writing that formula?

No! It's a waste of time - as I said, it'll always be easier to do it one step at a time! :smile:
 
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  • #122
Just start, please. I will continue... I just want to know that. I wouldn't use it...
 
  • #123
No! You start, if you like, and I'll comment …
 
  • #124
The start, will be like this?
<br /> (ax^n+bx^n^-^1+cx^n^-^2+...+ex^n^-^f)(\alpha P+\beta Q)+(gx^n+hx^n^-^1+ix^n^-^2+...+kx^n^-^w)(\gamma P +\delta Q)<br />
 
  • #125
Go on … :confused:
 
  • #126
P(x^n(a\alpha + g\gamma) + x^n^-^1(b\alpha + h\gamma) + x^n^-^2(c\alpha + i\gamma) +...+ \alpha ex^n^-^f + \gamma kx^n^-^w)

like this? Should I go on for Q?
 
  • #127
… how did we get from A and B to U and V … ?

I've no idea - I haven't worked out what your plan is ! :confused:

Perhaps it would be better to go back to the original example, and analyse how we got from A and B to U and V (that would be two steps in one, which is what you're looking for), and then sort out a plan of campaign from that? :smile:
 
  • #128
I don't know what you mean... Sorry...
 
  • #129
Oh … I'm getting my letters mixed up! :redface:

I forgot we got through so many letters …

I meant "from A and B to G and I". :smile:
 
  • #131
I don't know … but I thought that's what you were aiming for, to do two steps (A and B to P and Q, then P and Q to G and I) in one go?? :smile:
 
  • #132
And how will I do that? :smile:
 
  • #133
I don't know! :smile:
 
  • #134
c'mooon :) just start... I have no idea... Just let's finish this once forever :smile:
 
  • #135
:smile: Noooooooo! :smile:
 
  • #136
(ax^n\,+\,...\,+\,b)(\alpha P\,+\,\beta Q)\,+\,(cx^n\,+\,...\,+\,d)(\gamma P\,+\,\delta Q)<br />=\,P((...+\,(\alpha b\,+\,\gamma d))\,+\,Q((\beta a\,+\,\delta c)x^n\,+\,...)\,;

P=xR

btw- how will I know P or Q need xR in the general formula? Is it good now?
 
  • #137
tiny-tim, where are you? :smile: Can you help me please go on?
 

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