Find Sol for ODE dy/dx=(x+y+2)^2

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The problem involves finding the general solution to the ordinary differential equation (ODE) given by dy/dx = (x + y + 3)². The context is centered around methods for solving ODEs, particularly focusing on substitution techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss various methods they have learned, including separation of variables and substitution. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to begin, particularly due to the presence of a y² term. Some participants suggest a substitution involving u = x + y + 3, noting its potential to simplify the equation.

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There is an ongoing exploration of substitution methods, with some participants attempting to clarify their understanding of how substitutions work in the context of ODEs. While one participant acknowledges their lack of familiarity with substitution, another suggests that the proposed substitution could lead to a linear equation, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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Participants note that the equation does not appear to be linear or exact, leading to questions about appropriate substitution strategies. There is also mention of the challenges associated with trial and error in finding suitable substitutions.

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Homework Statement


Find the general solution:
$$\frac{dy}{dx}=(x+y+3)^{2}$$


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Methods I have learned: separation of variables, integrating factor for linear equations, exact equations, and substitution. I don't even know where to begin on this one. It has a ##y^{2}## term so it isn't linear; it isn't an exact equation; so there must be a substution. But it doesn't look anything like the substitution problems I've done. I expanded it, but that just seems to make it really long. Any hints or help would be greatly appreciated!
 
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Obviously the difficulty is that we have ##x+y## appearing in the power on the RHS, so an obvious choice of substitution would involve this combination. Try ##u=x+y+3##. Since this is linear, ##dy/dx## and ##du/dx## are simply related.
 
Thanks! Clearly, I don't understand how substitution works ... yet.

The only substitution we've learned so far is for Bernoulli's Equation, ##\frac{dy}{dx}+P(x)y=f(x)y^{n}##

Where the substitution is ##u=y^{1-n}##

I'll run ##u=x+y+3## through and I should get a linear equation like you said.

Sorry for the newbie ODE question.
 
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Thanks! Clearly, I don't understand how substitution works ... yet.

The only substitution we've learned so far is for Bernoulli's Equation, ##\frac{dy}{dx}+P(x)y=f(x)y^{n}##

Where the substitution is ##u=y^{1-n}##

I'll run ##u=x+y+3## through and I should get a linear equation like you said.

Sorry for the newbie ODE question.

Very often substitution involves trial and error, using experience to suggest promising approaches.

After the substitution the equation is still not linear (it involves ##u^##), but it is separable, which allows us to easily solve it.
 
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Making the suggested substitution: ##u=x+y+3## and using:
$$\int \frac{1}{a^{2}+u^{2}}du=\frac{1}{a}tan^{-1}\frac{u}{a}+C$$
$$x=tan^{-1}(x+y+3)+C$$

The choice of substitution in this case seems similar to what you would choose when doing integration by substitution, so hopefully that will be a trend and will make picking the stubstution easier. I suppose practicing with different types of substitutions also develops experience on likely beneficial substitutions. It also seems appropriate to choose ##u## so that ##x## and ##y## are simply related. Thanks again fzero!
 

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