Find Spring Constant of Elastic Rope: Mountain Climber Problem

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The problem involves a mountain climber who falls and stretches an elastic safety rope. The objective is to determine the spring constant of the rope, which is assumed to follow Hooke's law. The climber's mass and the distances involved are provided, along with multiple-choice answers for the spring constant.

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  • Participants discuss the application of Hooke's law and energy conservation principles, questioning how to relate gravitational potential energy, kinetic energy, and elastic potential energy. There are attempts to calculate the spring constant using different energy forms.

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Some participants have provided insights into energy conservation, suggesting that the gravitational potential energy lost by the climber is converted into elastic energy in the rope. There is ongoing exploration of the relationship between kinetic energy and elastic potential energy, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the correct formulation to use.

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A mountain climber of mass 60 kg slips and falls a distance of 4 m, at which tmie he reaches the end of his elastic safety rope. The rope then stretches an additional 2 m before the climber comes to rest. What is the spring constant of the rope, assuming it obeys Hooke's law?

a) 1.76*10^3
b) 3.52*10^3
c) 5.28*10^3
d) 7.04*10^3

I would think that F = kx = mg, where k(2) = (60)9.8 and k = 294 N/m, but that's not one of the choices. Alternatively, I thought that kx = (1/2)mv(f)^2 where v(f)^2 = 2gx and v(f) = 8.85 m/s, but that gives k = 1.17*10^3, which isn't a choice either.

Help please! It would be great if I could get help on this by tomorrow morning.
 
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Energy conservation is the right idea. The climber falls from rest and in the process loses gravitational potential energy (GPE). Initially, the GPE is converted to kinetic energy, but then the kinetic energy is converted into elastic energy in the rope. How much kinetic energy is there when the climber stops falling? What is the total change in GPE at that point? What is the elastic energy at that point?
 
When the climber reaches the end of the rope his kinetic energy is (1/2)mv(f)^2 = 2350 J. The change in GPE is mg(h(o) - h(f)) = -2352 J.

But I'm still not sure what the elastic potential energy is because I don't know k in (1/2)kx^2. Is (1/2)kx^2 = (1/2)mv(f)^2 + mg(h(o) - h(f)), or something along those lines? I'm still not getting the right value for k.
 
You are correct to use \frac{1}{2}kx^2 for the elastic energy but you do not need to involve kinetic energy just the difference in potential which is.

P.E. = 6mg

now all that potential must be turned into elastic energy.
 
Aha, got it. For some reason I didn't want to use those last two meters of PE before. Thank you!
 

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