Find Spring Constant: Prove 1/K_eff = 1/k_1 + 1/k_2

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The problem involves a system with two springs characterized by their spring constants, k1 and k2, and requires proving the relationship between the effective spring constant (K_eff) and the individual spring constants. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to approach the problem, particularly regarding the forces acting on the springs and their displacements.

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  • Participants discuss the equality of forces on the springs and the relationship between the effective spring constant and the individual spring constants. Questions arise about the reasoning behind the force equations and the implications of total displacement.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and seeking clarification on the relationships between the forces and displacements. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equality of forces, but there is still exploration of the underlying concepts and assumptions.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem setup, including the need to consider different displacements for each spring and the overall system behavior. There may be constraints related to the homework guidelines that influence the discussion.

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Finding the given spring constant

Homework Statement




Consider the system represented on the figure, constituted by the mass m and two springs of constant k1 and k2.
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Prove that:

[tex]\frac{1}{K_{eff}} = \frac{1}{k_{1}} + \frac{1}{k_{2}}[/tex]

Homework Equations



[tex]F = -kx[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't know where to begin. I have to consider two different displacements: One for the first spring, and one for the second.
I think, but I am not sure, that I can consider both forces are equal.
So:

[tex]F1 = -k_{1} x_{1}[/tex]

[tex]F2 = -k_{2} x_{2}[/tex]

and

1)

[tex]F1 + F2 = 0[/tex]

and a resultant force =

[tex]F_{r} = -k_{eff} x[/tex]

2)

[tex]x = x1 + x2[/tex]

I tried making a system with equations 2 and 1, but I am getting nowhere. Can anyone help?
 

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The force on both springs are equal i.e. F1=F2

Now the force on one spring is also equal to keff(x1+x2).

I think you can now find keff
 
rock.freak667 said:
Now the force on one spring is also equal to keff(x1+x2).

can you explain why is that so, please?
 
Fanta said:
can you explain why is that so, please?

The force on the spring should be the same throughout.
 
Like this i found it easy to do, thanks.

but isn't that the force for both springs combined?
I mean, you have the total displacement, and the Keff.

Or I can choose any of the springs, say F1 = Keff(x1+x2) ?
 
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Fanta said:
Like this i found it easy to do, thanks.

but isn't that the force for both springs combined?
I mean, you have the total displacement, and the Keff.

Or I can choose any of the springs, say F1 = Keff(x1+x2) ?

You can choose any spring and it should work out.
 

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