Find the angle required for a 3kg block to slide down an incline

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The discussion revolves around determining the angle required for a 3kg block to slide down a frictionless incline. Participants are exploring the implications of the problem's conditions, particularly the absence of friction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using trigonometric relationships and dynamic equations to find the angle θ. There is uncertainty about how to manipulate these equations effectively. Some question whether the problem should include a coefficient of static friction to determine a minimum angle for sliding.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with some participants suggesting that any nonzero angle would suffice for the block to slide down the incline due to the lack of friction. Others are questioning the clarity of the problem and whether it should specify conditions regarding friction.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted absence of friction in the problem setup, leading to discussions about the implications of this condition on the required angle for sliding. Some participants express confusion regarding the question's intent and the expected parameters.

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Homework Statement
Hello, I'm a high school student and relatively new to learning physics. I've gotten a question that I'm stumped on.
Relevant Equations
F=mg
Fnet = ma
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This is a rough sketch of the model.
It is frictionless.
I originally tried simple right-angle trig (sin θ =opp/hyp), but that just ends up as sin θ = sin θ , as well as cos θ = cos θ.

I feel like there's also a way to manipulate dynamic equations around to equate something that is capable of finding θ , but I haven't been able to compose one that proves anything yet. I would appreciate any help, thank you!
 
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zippyzay165 said:
Homework Statement:: Hello, I'm a high school student and relatively new to learning physics. I've gotten a question that I'm stumped on.
Relevant Equations:: F=mg
Fnet = ma

View attachment 264178
This is a rough sketch of the model.
It is frictionless.
I originally tried simple right-angle trig (sin θ =opp/hyp), but that just ends up as sin θ = sin θ , as well as cos θ = cos θ.

I feel like there's also a way to manipulate dynamic equations around to equate something that is capable of finding θ , but I haven't been able to compose one that proves anything yet. I would appreciate any help, thank you!
It looks to me as though you should have been given a coefficient of static friction and asked to find the minimum angle at which it will slide. Without friction, any nonzero angle will do.
 
zippyzay165 said:
Homework Statement:: Hello, I'm a high school student and relatively new to learning physics. I've gotten a question that I'm stumped on.
Relevant Equations:: F=mg
Fnet = ma

View attachment 264178
This is a rough sketch of the model.
It is frictionless.
I originally tried simple right-angle trig (sin θ =opp/hyp), but that just ends up as sin θ = sin θ , as well as cos θ = cos θ.

I feel like there's also a way to manipulate dynamic equations around to equate something that is capable of finding θ , but I haven't been able to compose one that proves anything yet. I would appreciate any help, thank you!
Can you post what the question is? Are they asking to find the acceleration?
 
It's asking to find the minimum angle required for the block to move down when it's frictionless.
 
haruspex said:
It looks to me as though you should have been given a coefficient of static friction and asked to find the minimum angle at which it will slide. Without friction, any nonzero angle will do.
coefficient seems to be 0...so does that mean there's a range of answers then?
 
zippyzay165 said:
It's asking to find the minimum angle required for the block to move down when it's frictionless.
Then, as Haruspex pointed out, the answer is any angle greater than zero. If there is no friction, any tilt of the incline will make the block slide down, clearly. It is a strange question.
 
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