How many revolutions did the fish make?

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The problem involves a fish that starts from rest and accelerates uniformly, eventually swimming around a rock. The questions focus on determining the angular acceleration and the number of revolutions made by the fish after a specified time period.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of angular acceleration and its relevance to finding the number of revolutions. There is confusion regarding the use of angular acceleration in the context of the problem and whether to apply it directly to find the total distance traveled in radians.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively questioning the validity of their calculations and assumptions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider angular acceleration when calculating revolutions, and alternative approaches are being explored.

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There is a noted concern about unit consistency in the calculations, particularly regarding the conversion from angular acceleration to revolutions. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the appropriate formulas to apply given the initial conditions of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A fish starts at rest and uniformly accelerates. After 10 seconds, he is swimming around a rock at a rate of 3.14 rad/sec.
a.) What's the magnitude of angular acceleration?
b.) How many times did the fish circle the rock (how many revolutions?)

Homework Equations


a.) wf=wi+alpha*t

The Attempt at a Solution


a.)wf=wi+alpha*t
alpha=(wf-wi)/t
alpha=(3.14rad/sec-0)/10sec
therefore, angular accelerate = .314 rad/sec^2

b.) .314rad/sec^2 *1rev/2pi rad = 0.50 revolutions around the rock.

I just wanted to double check that i did part b correctly because i guess I'm having trouble seeing how the sec^2 on the bottom of the units end up disappearing to become just revolutions.
 
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Charlene said:
b.) .314rad/sec^2 *1rev/2pi rad = 0.50 revolutions around the rock.
Where does that calculation come from? It is wrong. As you noted, the units don't match - and you did not use the time here, which is another sign that something is wrong.
 
mfb said:
Where does that calculation come from? It is wrong. As you noted, the units don't match - and you did not use the time here, which is another sign that something is wrong.
well all i did was use the conversion to convert rad to rev, i didn't use any type of formula, so perhaps i shouldn't be using the angular acceleration in part b?
should i just take the 3.14 rad/sec and multiply it by the 10 secs to get 31.4 rad and then divide by 2pi to get around 5.00 revolutions?
 
Charlene said:
should i just take the 3.14 rad/sec and multiply it by the 10 secs to get 31.4 rad and then divide by 2pi to get around 5.00 revolutions?
No, that would assume a constant angular velocity.If you start at rest on a street with a constant linear acceleration of 4 m/s2, how far do you go within 10 seconds?
For rotations the situation is nearly the same.
 
oh okay, i see that i need to include the angular acceleration.

so i found this formula, 1/2*alpha*time^2
(.314 rad/sec^2)*(100 sec^2)*(.5)=15.7 rad *1rev/2pi rad = 2.50 revolutions
 

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