Find the Approximate Value of this Cube Root

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The discussion focuses on approximating the cube root of 63 using Bernoulli's inequality and Taylor expansion techniques. The approximation method presented involves rewriting the cube root as ##\sqrt[3]{64-1}## and applying Bernoulli's inequality to derive an estimate of approximately 3.979166. The conversation also touches on the error analysis of the approximation, indicating a minimal error margin of about ##2.73647 \cdot 10^{-5}##. The participants clarify the mathematical steps involved, particularly the significance of the term ##(1 - \frac{1}{4^3})^{1/3}## in the approximation process.

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Homework Statement
Find approximate value of ##\sqrt[3] 63##
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Find approximate value of ##\sqrt[3] 63##
I know a lot of solution of that problem; for example Newton-Ralphson or Taylor expansion.But I saw a solution but I don't understand its theory. The solution like this: ##\sqrt[3]{63}=\sqrt[3]{64-1}\approx 4-\dfrac{4}{3.4^3-1}\approx 3.97905759162...##
 
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What is ##3.4^3##? Bernoulli is ##(1+x)^r \approx 1+rx## which yields in this case
$$
\sqrt[3]{1-\dfrac{1}{4^3}}\approx 1- \dfrac{1}{3\cdot 4^3}
$$
 
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fresh_42 said:
What is ##3.4^3##? Bernoulli is ##(1+x)^r \approx 1+rx## which yields in this case
$$
\sqrt[3]{1-\dfrac{1}{4^3}}\approx 1- \dfrac{1}{3\cdot 4^3}
$$
I don't know. According to your solution ##63^{1/3}\approx 4-1/48\approx 3.979166##
 
littlemathquark said:
I don't know. According to your solution ##63^{1/3}\approx 4-1/48\approx 3.979166##
Forget the factor ##4## on both sides. Bernoulli's inequality says for numbers greater than ##-1##
\begin{align*}
0,99476430197409796491613199693719&\approx \dfrac{1}{4}\sqrt[3]{63}=\left(1-\dfrac{1}{64}\right)^{\frac{1}{3}}\leq 1- \dfrac{1}{3}\cdot \dfrac{1}{64}\\&\approx 0,99479166666666666666666666666667
\end{align*}
with an error of about ##2,73647 \cdot 10^{-5}.## If we use ##\dfrac{1}{3\cdot 4^3 -1}=\dfrac{1}{191}## instead, then we get ##0,99476439790575916230366492146597## which varies by ##10^{-7}.## It is slightly better but not significantly. So I don't know where the irrelevant ##-1## in the denominator comes from, but the rest is Bernoulli's inequality.
 
fresh_42 said:
Forget the factor ##4## on both sides. Bernoulli's inequality says for numbers greater than ##-1##
\begin{align*}
0,99476430197409796491613199693719&\approx \dfrac{1}{4}\sqrt[3]{63}=\left(1-\dfrac{1}{64}\right)^{\frac{1}{3}}\leq 1- \dfrac{1}{3}\cdot \dfrac{1}{64}\\&\approx 0,99479166666666666666666666666667
\end{align*}
with an error of about ##2,73647 \cdot 10^{-5}.## If we use ##\dfrac{1}{3\cdot 4^3 -1}=\dfrac{1}{191}## instead, then we get ##0,99476439790575916230366492146597## which varies by ##10^{-7}.## It is slightly better but not significantly. So I don't know where the irrelevant ##-1## in the denominator comes from, but the rest is Bernoulli's inequality.
Can be used Halley Method?
 
littlemathquark said:
Can be used Halley Method?
No.

It is Maclaurin of ##(1-x)^r## up to the second derivative with an error of ##\dfrac{1}{9\cdot 4^6(3\cdot 4^3-1)}+O(4^{-27})=O(4^{-11})=O(10^{-7}).##
 
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littlemathquark said:
I don't know. According to your solution ##63^{1/3}\approx 4-1/48\approx 3.979166##
The step that was omitted is this:

##63^{1/3} = (64 - 1)^{1/3} = 64^{1/3}(1 - \frac 1{4^3})^{1/3} = 4(1 - \frac 1{4^3})^{1/3}##
In the final expression above he's working only with the ##(1 - \frac 1{4^3})^{1/3}## part.
 

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